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  What sort of accountability?

  by Pathofthorns in

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  i was just wondering what the thoughts were as to what sort of accoutability the average witness bears for their actions?.

  how much can be blamed on the mind control of a cult, especially when many of us regret how we behaved with what we knew then compared to how we act with what we know now?.

  what sort of actions can be excused and what cannot?

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  Prisca

  Good questions, Path.

  I believe that although we are all ultimately responsible for our own actions, the Society does share some of the responsibility for the actions of its adherents, due to the advice, suggestions and doctrines that are given out to the rank and file as "divine truth".

  This is because the average Witness does not have a great deal of latitude for following one's conscience, if his conscience differs from the info given out by the WTS.

  Also, the average person who was raised as a Witness by Witness parents does not have the same access to "outside" information. Thus, they can become, as Ray Franz described it, "victims of victims", not knowing any better, due to circumstances beyond their control. They did not have the same resources that those who joined the Society as adults did. Thus, although they must still bear responsibility for their actions, there are influnces unbeknown to them.
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  "It's a conscience matter"

  by expatbrit in

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  just had dinner with my wife and a couple of her friends.. one of them was telling me about her sister-in-law, a very nice, kind person who i've met on several occasions.

  it seems this sister got a job in an office as a receptionist/secretary.

  last christmas (1999) her employer asked her to sign christmas cards for all the clients.

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  Prisca

  Ahh yes, the old "conscience matter" line...

  in other words... DO WHAT WE ARE IMPLYING WHAT YOU SHOULD DO OR ELSE YOU WILL BE REGARDED AS "SPIRITUALLY WEAK"....
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  A very bad day

  by RedhorseWoman in

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  today i arrived at work thinking that this would be a day like any other.

  has been a combination of joy, sorrow, and relief.. my niece in new mexico left me a message this morning.

  my sister died yesterday.

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  Prisca

  Dear RHW,

  I'm so sorry to hear of your loss, both before your sister's death, and at this time now. {{{hugs}}}

  I am reading this after your weekend, so I hope that you had a good time re-aquainting yourself with your niece and her family. I have spent the past week with my niece - they are very special people.

  Take care,
  Prisca.
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  The Sydney BBQ report

  by OlderTom in

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  well folks i just came from the sydney bbq.

  it was good to meet some of the faces behind the names of the posters here... it was funny every time another car rolled up one of us jumped up to show the security keys, i felt like a bit of a goose but it worked.

  no uninvited elders showed up.. there was heaps of food and the chocolate mud cake was delicious.

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  Prisca

  Thanks Zazu we did!
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  The Sydney BBQ report

  by OlderTom in

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  well folks i just came from the sydney bbq.

  it was good to meet some of the faces behind the names of the posters here... it was funny every time another car rolled up one of us jumped up to show the security keys, i felt like a bit of a goose but it worked.

  no uninvited elders showed up.. there was heaps of food and the chocolate mud cake was delicious.

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  Prisca

  OT - check my profile, it show have a key where you can icq me - otherwise email me and i'll send it to you.
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  The Sydney BBQ report

  by OlderTom in

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  well folks i just came from the sydney bbq.

  it was good to meet some of the faces behind the names of the posters here... it was funny every time another car rolled up one of us jumped up to show the security keys, i felt like a bit of a goose but it worked.

  no uninvited elders showed up.. there was heaps of food and the chocolate mud cake was delicious.

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  Prisca

  Well, I think Older Tom deserves a medal for organising this event - or at least another slice of chocolate mud cake!

  It was a great day - it was in a quiet bbq area, the weather was just right, and the company was great.

  It is a good experience to meet others who have been through similar circumstances. You can talk and share experiences, knowing that they understand your feelings. I thought it was a bit like meeting on this DB, only you see the faces and voices behind the names.

  We had plenty of food, laughs and interesting conversation.

  As OlderTom said, we're organising another one in 2 mths' time, so any that were thinking of coming today are most welcome to come to our next one. Plus any of any who like the sound of it, please join us.
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  Do You Think That You Might Turn Back To Jehovah?

  by Englishman in

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  i`ve never yet been snubbed by a jw.

  the reason is that i refuse point blank to speak to them unless they speak to me first.

  so, if i`m visiting my jw mum and jw visitors arrive which they often do i just smile, raise one eyebrow slightly, and look `em straight in the eye!.

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  Prisca

  I hate this question because in their minds, they are assuming you have left Jehovah. I always reply that I still have a love for him, still believe in him and still read the Bible.

  I think JAVA's reply was best :

  Yes, I returned to Jehovah when I stopped worshipping the Watchtower Society. It's wonderful having a personal relationship with God--I didn't have that as a Witness

  That should shut them up.
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  Armageddon is history!

  by rabotnik in

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  thought i would pass along this news item from the morning paper since fred was on the subject of armageddon.

  feared apocalypse gone with the wind.

  brooklyn -- (ap) "armageddon wasnt what it was cracked up to be," says the watchtower bible and tract society, "and, man, are we pissed.

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  Prisca

  Thanks rabotnik for posting this - I was about to do it but I noticed you beat me to it
  
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  So Whats Driving You To Make Posts?

  by Englishman in

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  why do you bother to post on this site?

  what good does it do you?

  what do you gain from posting?.

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  Prisca

  ICING, I was wondering that myself.

  But I thought back to when I was at the meetings and assemblies, and I remembered how demoralising they could be.

  If you are striving to be a good witness, maybe trying to overcome some hurdles in life, and maybe already have low esteem about yourself, dealing with the pressures of life, and stressed out as it is, and then you go to the meeting/assembly, where they are telling you to "do more, do more".... It makes you feel even more unworthy, ashamed, even though there is nothing to make you feel ashamed about.

  Those talks don't encourage, they demoralise. It's no wonder Mrs Ozzie was crying. It happened to me too.
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  WHERE DO I GO FROM HERE?

  by Unchained in

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  this is my first time at this so bare with me.

  i will be turning 21 tomorrow so i decided to celebrate like this.

  my family threw me a surprise birthday a week ago and we even had a pinata .

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  Prisca

  Unchained,

  As Gopher said, concentrate on the here and now and try not to stress out too much about the future. Appreciate each day as it comes. In time you will work out what you want to believe in and what morals you want to live by. You are only 21. Your whole life is stretching in front of you. You can take any path you want. Give yourself some breathing space before you make any big decisions.

  And Happy 21st!