There is no way we can understand how there has always been "something". Philosophers of science may try to cook up an explenation. The Bible certainly does not.
JoenB75
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Jesus Believed In Adam and Eve
by Parker ini'm new to the forum.
i'm an ex-jw who actually faded from jws.
i'm here to drop by every once in a while to ask a question or two.
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Jesus Believed In Adam and Eve
by Parker ini'm new to the forum.
i'm an ex-jw who actually faded from jws.
i'm here to drop by every once in a while to ask a question or two.
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JoenB75
I can well imagine Adam and Eve represents mankind's experience with the effects of sin and loss. Most of us experience a fall in some sense. It is important to notice they were not perfect or knew what they got into with that serpent, knowing not good and evil. They had to experience it. A story has to start somewhere and in the Bible it starts with these archetypes representing man. Perhaps the preceding creation out of chaos represents some earlier civilisation and perhaps Adam and Eve also represents a community following that.
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Jesus Believed In Adam and Eve
by Parker ini'm new to the forum.
i'm an ex-jw who actually faded from jws.
i'm here to drop by every once in a while to ask a question or two.
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JoenB75
Hehe, anyone ask a Bible related question and behold the atheist storm from the Netherworld. We know not all ancient people believed in a literal Adam and Eve. The gnostics is one example. But it also has to do with whether the traditional literalist persuasion is true or not. Reading much prophecy becomes quite difficult if you insist on literal interpretations. Of course with the advent of scientific theories about man, it becomes even harder to argue for a literal talking snake and magical trees. I remember my first biblical inclination before even believing was that Genesis 1 is poetry. I sticked on to that ever since adding perhaps John Calvin's view that it is a simple tale for all, the simple minded included so they could get the message too 😉😁
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Galaxies and 49000 years
by HowTheBibleWasCreated innow today this is of course a non-issue.
the wt has embraced the big bang/old earth etc just not evolution.
in fact the creator book has some decent info.. however i have a good copy of the 1958 paradise book.
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JoenB75
QuVidiot, good point. Creationists of all sorts do that as though he could not have quoted a symbolic or prophetic story
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Galaxies and 49000 years
by HowTheBibleWasCreated innow today this is of course a non-issue.
the wt has embraced the big bang/old earth etc just not evolution.
in fact the creator book has some decent info.. however i have a good copy of the 1958 paradise book.
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JoenB75
Jesus simply quotes from the story, he is not saying it is a literal or not literal story. "You have read" ☺️
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Black people attacking whites in the US
by JoenB75 ini see a lot of shocking videos on social media about gangs of blacks attacking white people.
how big is the problem really and what is done about it?.
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JoenB75
Love, yes amen to that. I recall swedish feminists have made gnarly insensitive comments about swedish victims of Mena violence, something along white people deserving it for past sins. They have a lot to answer for the multicultural marxist psychos if they ever get to pay before the West is completely ruined
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Guns...Are You For or Against Legally Owning Them?
by minimus inthere is a surge going on of people buying guns, especially first time buyers.
with talk of police defunding and rioting in the neighborhoods, some people want to protect themselves.. do you support owning and using a gun if needed?.
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JoenB75
I think many people put great trust in the effect the sight of the firearm will have on the thug. In my small homeguard unit we aim at shooting once a month and they know it is not enough but it is also a freewill organisation -
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What the Heck are they talking about in todays meeting 7-19-20 Wife in full on cult mode
by goingthruthemotions inso what the heck are they brainwashing today in the meeting or what ever.
she is in full on cult mode talking about the end of the world.
she asked me to listen to a couple of talks and i respectfully declined.
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JoenB75
Hehe yes they have a weak case and the whole internet is against them too
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Watchtower Sudy 12 July.the Kings of North & South (from 05/20 issue)
by BluesBrother init is a challenge next sunday for them .
due to starting the convention programme the wt study will be a 30 minute run through ,and deals with this prophecy ... i doubt the younger ones are familiar with it at all bur oldies could debate it at length .we on the look out for the king of the north to enter "the land of decoration" (more to follow,maybe next week).
this article makes a grand claim in par 2.
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JoenB75
Preterist scholar Kurt Simmons offers an intriguing explenation as to how Antiochus and Caesar are intermingled in the account in Daniel 11 (according to him nothing in the Bible speaks of events beyond AD 70).
http://www.preteristcentral.com/Commentary%20on%20Daniel%20Eleven.html
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Your worst convention experience.
by zeb inby a split second rescuing our handicapped son from being pushed down the stairs by a flood of sisters rushing out to see as the drama had started.. the main offender being a special pioneer..
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JoenB75
I was dragged to numerous conventions. I remember especially my hurting ass from all that hard sitting. I went to the toilet a lot just to stretch the legs. Being forced to sit down and be bored for so long time especially for a child is a form of torture.