Eyeuse, you might have a point if Lot did this incest on a regular basis and not a special event. Who knows how he handled liquor anyway. Also who knows what event in particular pissed off God
JoenB75
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What's up with old geezers in the Bible?
by eyeuse2badub inwhat the hell is the problem with the famous “men of old” in the bible?
for some strange reason those old geezers (and some not so old) could not recognize who they were screwing?.
my wife was listening to this week’s bible reading about jacob, laban, and the sisters leah, and rachael.
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What Is Your Favorite Decade or Time Period to Live In?
by minimus insome people say this decade is the most advantage and so they are happiest in the present.
some long for the good old days before cell phones and computers.
if you could live in an era or decade , when would it be?.
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JoenB75
After the edict of Milan. In a wealthy family of course
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What's up with old geezers in the Bible?
by eyeuse2badub inwhat the hell is the problem with the famous “men of old” in the bible?
for some strange reason those old geezers (and some not so old) could not recognize who they were screwing?.
my wife was listening to this week’s bible reading about jacob, laban, and the sisters leah, and rachael.
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JoenB75
Well in the case of Jacob, perhaps we should not imagine the sophisticated / advanced love making of today. It was dark and perhaps IT involved a simple mating act similar to what they observed the animals had. Lot was very likely a very primitive man with a low understanding of ethics and formulated laws. His justification before God did not involve keeping of laws from all we know yet not given to man, but rather being elect by God and obeying his command. Think more of a Conan the barbarian type than some morale saint. The problem for the jw is probably that they compare these men to modern age men and the regime they as jws are subject to
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A chance for the unrighteous?
by AlainAlam inthe witnesses teach that the "unrighteous" are brought back to life in order to learn about god during the 1000-year reign.
i don't think that's a bible teaching, for the following reason:.
1) no verse says that.
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JoenB75
Vanderhoven7, I believe the Bible says we are judged for our actions/works and saved out of grace and the blood of Jesus. Individual Judgment is a strange work of God that completes the human experience.
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A chance for the unrighteous?
by AlainAlam inthe witnesses teach that the "unrighteous" are brought back to life in order to learn about god during the 1000-year reign.
i don't think that's a bible teaching, for the following reason:.
1) no verse says that.
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Vanderhoven7, I think in general we believe in universal eonian judgment starting with the house of God. Judgment and salvation will be unrelated for the unbelievers ☺️ -
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A chance for the unrighteous?
by AlainAlam inthe witnesses teach that the "unrighteous" are brought back to life in order to learn about god during the 1000-year reign.
i don't think that's a bible teaching, for the following reason:.
1) no verse says that.
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JoenB75
Of course it is not a biblebased doctrine The JWs have. The strongest implication the proponents see is probably the second death concept. You have to be blessed somehow to fall from grace / die a second time. Hebrews, Jude and 1st John (circumcision writings like Revelation) probably speak of the same concept when they speak harshly of the twice dead, impossible to renew, sin unto death etc. When a person hears the jw message and rejects it, they fall into this category
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I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural
by AlainAlam inbackground info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.
actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.
i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.
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JoenB75
There is nothing unusual about the JW dream requiring the death of billions. In fact it is extremely charitable and loving compared to most of conservative christianity and islam (and other tankers??) requiring the eternal torment of far more billions. Humanism of JW☺️ -
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Legal Concerns About "Zoom" Meetings!
by Atlantis inthis whole "zoom" thing has got me wondering whether some of it is legal or not.
if a person has to dress up for a zoom meeting the way the watchtower dictates, doesn't this really go "beyond" cult?.
even the cults who committed mass suicide were able to dress the way they wanted for their meetings.
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JoenB75
Cult in practical use is a worse term than sect. The conservative evangelicals use it as a label on any non trinitarian religion. The difference between cult and conservative sect is hair splitting. In both cases some are given authority by and over their omsubjects in a closed community. No cult following, no GB. The worst thing about them is for sure the pressure people to avoid necessary blood. Here it is the responsibility of the medical staff to disregard the dangerous doctrine of the sect/cult.
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why did jehovah create corona virus?
by stan livedeath inwhy did jehovah create the strains of corona virus ?.
is it part of the great tribulation that is closer than ever now ?.
what if lots of his people die from it ?.
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JoenB75
We forget so easily the spanish flu took out many Millions (17-100 according to wiki) in 1918-20. The Corona virus has a long way to go if it gets anywhere near that bodycount -
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Do You Think Trump Is Doing.A Good Job Dealing With The Coronavirus?
by minimus inwho needs a press secretary when the president details what is happening every day to keep us informed?
i think he’s doing a very good job considering what is happening in the usa and the world..
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JoenB75
Nobody is perfect, but Trump seems to be a very cool President. You Americans are lucky