uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
He has admitted to dating a sex worker, this means hiring a prostitute for a while. Poor girl she must have been very desperate or exploited and forced into this horrendous industry.
He is so obviously lying that he didn’t go there for exactly that. He keeps crying about being sexually repressed by being brought up a JW.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
chapters detailing his sexting of young girls, drunkenly humping an Xmas tree, and similar. Who in their right mind would even put that shit in a book? Embarrassing, cringey as fugg retarded crap that makes him look like an even bigger moron and creep that he already did
He is clinging to sexual repression caused by being a JW. This is now part of his identity and he won’t let it go. He is a pervert but blames the org for it all.
Most of us on here had the same or similar upbringing as neck beard but all don’t claim to be sexually repressed perverts blaming the GB for it all.
He felt guilty everytime he masterbated growing up and always felt awkward around girls. Then he got into sexting and cyberflashing and it’s not anything to do with him being an ugly awkward creep no it’s all the GBs fault because they have high moral standards and he has very low gutter moral standards
now he is obviously addicted to porn and cheap sex workers. Drugs come along with the lifestyle which he has admitted to already to some extent, the drugs and sex addiction’s are probably far worse than he has admitted to
drugs on both sides the poor exploited women maybe selling their bodies to get the drugs they are addicted to. Then the perverted creeps like neck beard who pay these poor women for sex.
it’s a horrible situation and his donors are supporting it
i found this while googling.
i thought elders and/or high rankers don't get paid.
is there something i don't know?
It’s all about how many years full time service.
when I was at Bethel I got the standard that everyone gets plus the bonus based on how many years FT service
if you are a couple both pioneers for years you get a fair bit
plus no outgoings at all everything is paid. Your car expenses all paid plus mileage which is all trust, some people put down hundreds of miles more than they did and make profit
plus you get given lots of white envelopes by wealthy JWs. Often the congregation pays for little trips flights and accommodation if giving a talk somewhere
clothes all donated, toiletries all free , food and everything free. No bills no repairs for anything need paying for, just put in a reccy we used to call it. (Request form)
when you think about what does a Bethelite ever need money for? They can go months without ever needing money, it’s just for extra treats but you get plenty of thise
during lett’s announcement that beards are now allowed he elaborated at some length how brothers ought to feel and react to the change in policy.
he warned brothers not to resent not being able to grow beards earlier if they had wished to do so.
he also warned brothers who supported the old policy not to allow themselves to wonder what the point of doing so was now that it has changed.
That they aren't in it for anything other than the social club.
Yes that the only reason I’m still Physically in. I know for certain the GB are charlatans. But I don’t know for certain that the Bible is wrong, so I still keep the hope in the Bible.
folks: regarding all the recent changes about dis-fellowshipping and time for re-instatement.
(and, even speaking to persons who are dis-fellowshpped.
) back in 1972, a new book was released at the summer district convention, that replaced the yellow-colored "lamp": book.
Yes I remember talking to older ones and they say there was a time when the DF rules lightened up but people went to far resume family relationships. Then they said there is no need for them to get reinstated so they made the rules really strict again.
what will happen with this new flip flop this time?
there are no serious consequences for doubting the gb.
there are no consequences for going against the direction.
we can now celebrate anything.. what will happen if you take blood, celebrate xmas and birthdays ect?.
The new direction is if the person says they are repentant then that is enough.
Its gone from what the elders say to what the sinner says
during lett’s announcement that beards are now allowed he elaborated at some length how brothers ought to feel and react to the change in policy.
he warned brothers not to resent not being able to grow beards earlier if they had wished to do so.
he also warned brothers who supported the old policy not to allow themselves to wonder what the point of doing so was now that it has changed.
Being a JW from now on is totally different from only recent times. For the easy stuff you can now have a beard and wear jumpers no need to have a suit and tie anymore.
On a deeper lever You can basically do whatever you want. Sex, blood, smoking, drugs, rock and roll.
What will happen is elders will ask are you showing genuine repentance. If you say you are then that is enough. If the elders don’t think you are telling the truth that you have stopped they will inform you that they have decided to DF you.
You can appeal and tell the new bothers that those last elders had it in for you and you really are sorry. On that appeal the direction is that the elders have to take your word for it that you are really repentant.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out because there is a loophole where JWs can get away with anything now.
It will be interesting if someone tries it like they celebrate Xmas every year and then say they are repentant every time. Will the elders follow the new direction?
The worst that could ever happen is you get the 90 day sanction after xmas every year but after a few times the elders probably wouldn’t bother DFing you for 90 days
the latest study edition mentions hypothetical scenarios of jws who are no longer serving at bethel or no longer elders, etc.
and says we shouldn't speculate, as defaming them could border on slander.. we could unintentionally defame someone by spreading negative information.
..... would it be proper to speculate on the reasons why these adjustments were made and to share that opinion with others?.
If someone doesn’t want people speculating then tell the truth. You can’t just say we won’t tell but please don’t speculate. You have to set the record straight
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
That elder is wrong. It’s only apostasy the kind Lloyd Evans is doing. Or promoting serious sin which I’m not sure what it means.
Everything else you are only DFed for 90 days
for those of you who are pimo, how do you feel it may be effecting your mental and physical health?
is it easy to pretend to be what you are not?
how do you feel about falsely supporting the pimi which builds them up and therefore an org you don't believe in?
It’s not a toll.
Being a JW from now on is totally different from only recent times.
You can basically do whatever you want. Sex, blood, smoking, drugs, rock and roll.
What will happen is elders will ask are you showing genuine repentance. If you say you are then that is enough. If the elders don’t think you are telling the truth that you have stopped they will inform you that they have decided to DF you.
You can appeal and tell the new bothers that those last elders had it in for you and you really are sorry. On that appeal the direction is that the elders have to take your word for it that you are really repentant.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out because there is a loophole where JWs can get away with anything now.
