it was back in 2011 when i was convinced that jws dont have the truth.
i rejected so many teachings and was open about that to members of my family.
it took me another year to pluck up the courage to attend other churches.
It's a good thing you saw them talking to the elderly woman, and that her family came by in time for you to alert them about what had happened so they could act on it. If it happens again, could you have the number of the kh to give to whomever so they could call and tell the jw's to place their address on the dnc list?
I think most people don't even look at the tracts, just put them in the trash, but you never know who you might have saved!
hi guys, i don't really post on here much anymore, having been on here since 2001. this site helped me out in the early days and has been a great support system for all of my past jw issues.
like many others i was discouraged from an education so that i could window clean and pioneer in my youth during the 80's.
having spent many years post my jw exit in alcoholism and periods of drugs, i decided to clean myself up 7 years ago by attending aa, i was still a window cleaner ... at the time i wrote extensively on here about my issues.
CONGRATULATIONS!
just wondering if they still go door-to-door?
i never see groups of people walking around the neighborhoods all dressed up or out in fastfood restaurants on saturday mornings or groups of people driving around in cars.
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I know they do by posts from those on here that still have to go out. And a huge car group hit my neighborhood right before the Memorial. But I hadn't seen anyone in my neighborhood in a couple years before that. I don't think they are quite as active or enthusiastic as some once were.
for some reason i am not able to log in to my account so i have created this one instead.. as many of you may know i am a disfellowshipped gay.
here was my story for those who dont:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/215019/1/living-as-a-gay-jehovahs-witness-my-story#.u_mrcvlduvk.
Try using some of the knowledge from your studies in counselling. Happy to hear it has made you a stronger person!
When she starts the emotional trip, drop some nuggets of truth. If she becomes too emotional, tell her you simply cannot have a conversation with someone who is so emotional and unwilling to listen to an opposing point of view, but that you would be happy to have a conversation when she is calm and rational. You DO NOT have to have a conversation with anyone who you believe is trying to commit emotional blackmail on you, whether that is their intent or not.
years ago, when i was studying with the witnesses, my bible studty conductor's sister in ohio died.
of cancer as i recall.
so he flew back to ohio ( from san diego ) to be with his family .
A woman who was a study received a call from her family at the Sunday meeting that her brother, who was in the hospital, very ill, has passed. She went to the restroom to cry, and the ignorant woman who had studied with me was disgusted. She said " they could have waited until AFTER the meeting was over to tell her"! She was such a stupid woman.
i used to be very impressed with convention experiences regarding how worldly employers would hire jws because they were known as the most honest workers.
i was too indoctrinated to realise these were selective experiences, and there are plenty of experiences of jws being dishonest in the workforce.
i have received a couple recently by email.. i have cut quite a bit out of the following email i received so that the person and company cannot be indentified, but you will get the message.. .
There was an older brother that owned some type of delivery company along with his, I believe, non-jw brother. Their kids worked for them, and a number of men from the local congregations. I guess the jw men & their wives all assumed they would get assembly/convention days off w/o asking. I was speaking to one of the wives and she was pretty upset that her hubby had to work on an assembly day, as bro x KNEW they had the assembly and didn't just schedule the brothers off! Never thinking ahead to the fact that 1. he probably wasn't the one doing the scheduling and 2. others had probably REQUESTED that day off! There must have been a lot of bone heads complaining about it because there was a small comment made from the podium at that assembly that if you worked for a witness, you needed to be responsible for requesting theses days off, not just assume you were getting them.
There was the elders son who was a nice enough guy, but when he did some remodeling work for a single sister(she had some money as she made good money), he goofed up. He made a bar the wrong dimensions, and when she called him on it, he told her if she wanted it corrected, she would have to pay for it, that he wasn't going to eat it! She had family in, so she wasn't all alone, but did this fool think anyone else was going to hire him? His work was nice, but it was still not they had contracted for! She just accepted the wrong work to avoid confrontation.
I know of other stories of foolish jw workers, but I also know of some who give their best to their employers when they are at their jobs. Probably reflects the general population, but that is not what they say from the podium!
well, i have finally got rid of my baptism cards.
the congratulations cards....the wt ones, the ones with sheep on etc.... all gone.
they dated back to 23/09/2000.. has anyone else "purged" their witness past this way?.
Got rid of everything a few years ago. Some witnesses came to our door a few years back, and my husband gave them a box of wt books I had in the garage waiting for garbage day! It seemed like they didn't really want them , but graciously accepted them.
the following e-mail is circulating among jws about the international convention at fedex stadium in landover, md.
note the all-too-familiar jw claims: everything they do (including the simple act of parking cars) is proof of jehovah'stm blessing, and everything wt did at the convention was the fastest, greatest, best ever.
oh, and the never-fails-to-get-mentioned alleged 'persecution'/resistance from some unnamed authority who tried to get in watchtower's way and hamper the effort...but jws prevailed anyway (as always):.
These guys are so full of themselves it's pathetic!
I remember the one time way back in the days when they had them at the Pontiac Silverdome in Michigan, one time, in I believe in the '90's, they decided to save the money they had to pay the police to direct the traffic out on a Friday. IDIOTS! IT WAS A DISASTER!
The police can control the flow of traffic on the roads outside the venue as well as inside. The idiots who were trying to direct the flow out of the Silverdome had no such authority, had NO fricking idea what they were doing, and it took HOURS to get out of the parking lot, where normally it would take less than an hour. They would allow one lane to go inside the parking lot, forgetting about the other two trying to go. The police were actually lined up across the street, in case things went wrong and they were needed. You could actually see them laughing. The next day the police were back directing, I can't remember the lame ass excuse they gave for paying them again. But I believe attendance was down that day, aSaturday!
an article in the sydney morning herald:.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/father-denies-children-inheritance-unless-they-quit-jehovahs-witnesses-and-become-catholics-20140810-102egl.html#ixzz39yziuuvf.
"from beyond the grave, father-of-four patrick carroll continued a five-decade crusade to steer his children away from being active jehovah's witnesses and into catholicism.. mr carroll wrote into his will that his adult children were not to receive any inheritance unless they met two conditions: attend his funeral and become catholics within three months of his death.. mr carroll died in april 2012. his children attended the funeral but they did not become catholics and challenged the condition in the nsw supreme court in a bid to still receive their share of his estate.. but justice francois kunc last week ruled that mr carroll was entitled to place such conditions on his will.. the court heard that mr carroll's motivation was not so much about imposing his own beliefs but rather the fact he never approved of his children becoming jehovah's witness.. the court heard that mr carroll did not raise his children as catholics, neither he or they had attended church services when they were young and he did not enroll them in catholic schools.. but when he split from their mother lillian in 1959 she became a jehovah's witness and over the next decade the couple's four children, robyn, paulene, anthony and susan, were baptised as jehovah's witnesses.. mr carroll never approved of "their adherence to that faith", the court heard.. "[lillian's] conversion to that faith enraged mr carroll, who for the rest of his life continued to express his very strong objections to lillian's and the children's member of that faith," justice kunc said in his judgement.. the court was told that all four of his children remain active members of their congregation.. in his will, written in december 2011, four months before he died, mr carroll left more than a third of his estate to his four children "dependent upon them becoming baptised into the catholic church within a period of three months from the date of my death and such gifts are also subject to and dependent my children attending my funeral.".
Sounds like Dad might have had some control issues! It was mean, but they are all rock stars at their halls now.
i won't be lengthy on this.
i have been in the org for about 20yrs.
now & woke up about 2yrs ago.
Welcome, nomore!
I'm sure no one has to tell you to take it slow with your family. Please ask them questions rather than making statements when talking about the cult.
All the best on your fade!
