Posts by JakeM2012

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Since leaving the truth, do you celebrate holidays, and does your participation in such bring you happiness?

by Stand for Pure Worship in

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i ask this respectfully, and do so after watching a favorite show of mine's season opener which had a new years storyline.

hollywood tends to make movies and television show episodes centered around holiday themes appear warm and blissful.

while i'm thankful to have never participated in such holidays, i can't deny my curiosity about ex-jws that do celebrate.

JakeM2012

SFpw, wow, at least an attempt to be humbly inquisitive. Great.

For all, I deactivated four years ago. I have not done the "holidays" meaning decorating the house, putting up a christmas tree, carving a turkey, inviting family. I do enjoy every couple of years going to the Biltmore in N.C. during Christmas, it is awesomely cool.

Some history: Years ago (1970's) my family had a gathering that timewise "corresponded" to the worldly thanksgiving holiday. Primarily, then, as a middle class family, we got together because Everyone was off of work, and in honor we went to the Grand Parents Home and occasionally had turkey, (not always), in addition (because turkey was at the cheapest price for the year), and we had a dinner with the whole family.

My older brother balked when he was in his early twenties after marriage (again 1970's), and said that we were "celebrating" thanksgiving. (I wonder where he came up with this, because, I don't think his wife liked being around the family, she was too snooty and a donkey) Well, that was it, ending it, for family get togethers. We have not been together since. We tried going to a cafeteria for years to honor GF and GM but there was still critism and now Grandfather and Grandmother are dead, it's over. I guess we all did assembly at the funeral, oh, great.

SFpw, I have a JW disfunctional family that is great at being critical, judgemental, and hateful, because they are the elders, RBC's coordinators, District convention talk givers, etc. They have been indoctrinated very well into the hate mongering religion. Wuhoo!!

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What's the weirdest health advice given by a JW?

by Julia Orwell in

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from radio biola to a sister who said you can treat autism and ptsd with scented oils, jws have had some weird some weird ideas about medicine.

what gems have you heard?.

JakeM2012

The weidest that I heard and know personally was the mushroom tea. You took part of someone elses mushroom and started you own tea. It had to "work" for 10 days to two weeks. Then you drained off the "tea" and drank it. It was supposed to cure any and everything. I drank it and my mom grew the "tea" in the refrigerator, it was nasty tasting. The mushroom would cover the liquid tea with a thick growth. I laugh at it now, what idiots we were.

Point: If you have a health problem, go to a doctor.

How about those Shakley Vitimans?

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2013-For New Ones!

by Atlantis in

.. 1. http://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/archive.htm .

.. http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=jehovah%27s%20witnesses .

.. http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=jehovah%27s%20witnesses&page=2 .

JakeM2012

Marked

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JW Preaching Work Ends in 20th Century ?

by Scorpion in

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page 12 of the january 1,1989 wt original magazine paragraph 8 ends with the statement that the apostle paul's missionary activity laid a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century.".

(a subtle prophecy that 'the end' will come by the year 2000 a.d.).

this sentence is changed in the bound volume reprint to read "a work that would be completed in our day.

JakeM2012

Marking

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Are YOU Paying More or Less or the Same $$$ For Insurance Since Obamacare?

by minimus in

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just curious.

JakeM2012

I'm a union employee. So far we haven't been affected. The employer pays into a heath and wellfare fund. Insurance meets the Obama minimum. Joining the union was the best thing I've done since the economy crashed in 2008. Full reimbursement for prescriptions, and not too bad insurance otherwise.

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Letting go of Highly Qualified Men

by James Jackson in

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i have been posting for a few months now and have read the life stories of tech49, confusedandalone, winston smith and other brothers who have held prominent positions in the organization who were dismissed not for any gross sins, but mainly for not keeping their child toeing the line.

they have been "cast aside", nit picked to death, and made to feel unworthy for their years of dedicated service.

even in my case, having my best friends treat me like the plague to jockey for position of recogntion.. is this what the organization is resorting to now?

JakeM2012

James, good post. It's true, the elder bodies in the WTBTS are full of nit pickers. They behave just like chickens that peck to death the weaker chickens. Chicks will do this to other chicks. Witnesses grow up in a judgemental environment and only know this way of dealing with others. Somehow the Biblical teachings of love and compassion are never learned.

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Today's WT study - WTS playing into Satan's hand?

by leaving_quietly in

the picture on page 26 of the 8/15/13 wt shows three scenarios with the caption "what scriptural principles should come to your mind under these circumstances.

" the scriptures are, of course, what's discussed throughout the article.

"the desire of the flesh", "the desire of the eyes" and "the showy display of one's means of life".

JakeM2012

leaving, thanks for your post.

I believe that they pull "evil" things corner paint of the world to bash out of their arse to use in the art work. Yes, they create a new app for the smartphone or tablet, but then bash as evil the "desire" to get a smart phone. I'll admit that for me individually the smart phone was a tool that helped expose the truth about the truth. I remember reading articles the e-watchman had written about why the WTBTS had to change their thinking on certain scriptures because they painted themselves in a corner. Further Watchtower Facts.com was also a regular read. As the scales of my eyes fell while I was reading this information at appropriate times at work, I was crushed. They are playing with fire endorsing/condeming the internet or smart phones etc.

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Catching the Governing Body with their pants down around the ankles

by Terry in

the following information is significant and extremely useful.. for what?.

for proving a point about jehovah's channel of communication.. what about jehovah's channel of communication?.

it is a fool's paradise of misinformation, awkward and ridiculous assertions and hard-headed nonsense presented as superior divine insider knowledge.. ***.

JakeM2012

Thank you Terry, another great post. I remember my mom told me she had studied with a women months before the new understanding of the superior authorities in the early sixties, and the women argued that the organization was wrong. My mother was insistent and the women continued studing. Then Mom went to the convention and listened to the talk explaining the new understanding of the superior authorities. Although embarrassed, she humbly re-taught the "corrected" information to the study. I can't say if women ever got baptised. But my mom was understandably embarrassed.

I was around 9 years old when the article came out with the understanding that the heart is the seat of motivation, and not just a blood pumping muscle and I also remember the stage props of the heart and the mind at the assembly. I remember telling my Dad that they were wrong, and I was only 9 years old. I was still around when they changed it again in the 80's.

Thanks

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YOU ARE DOING A GOOD JOB!

by abiather in

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i am still a jw.

i cant give any more details than this because of my family members who are devout jws.

i cherish a larger picture in my heart without anybody knowing ittrue worship means love and compassion, (luke 10:25-37) not belonging to any organization or having a set of belief system!

JakeM2012

Welcome

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For those who are still IN and attending meetings, do you still study the WT & other books?

by ohnightdivine in

for those of you who are still attending meetings due to various reasons, how do you prepare yourself for each program?.

do you still read and study the wt?.

do you still read and study the okm, jeremiah, etc?.

JakeM2012

When we used to receive the WT subscription in the mail wrapped, I enjoyed taking my knife out and opening the magazines at the Sunday WT study. The schhhhhg of the knife always made a wonderful noise which often brought disapproving looks from those that had six ink marking colors in their personal study copy.