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  Will the UN turn on Religion?

  by no-zombie in

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  2. beliefs

  as all witnesses know, the opening gambit of the great tribulation will occur when the united nations turns on organized religion to devastate them and leave them naked of people and resources.

  however, as jehovah's judgement day has been spoken of as being "imminent", the question that can be fairly asked ... 'is the united nations organization actually in a position to act as god's destroyer of false religion?

  while i have no doubt that most within that organization had in the past tried to make the lives of the desperate better, the united nations has unfortunately now become a weak and underfunded political eunuch.

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  The UN is literally largely bankrupt and could hardly field an army, let alone stamp out all religion.

  Oddly enough the average Dub doesn't even know about it's significance in JW doctrine.
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  Who Starts the Great Tribulation - Jehovah or Satan?

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who starts the great tribulation - jehovah or satan?.

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  Last I read a VERY long time ago....Jehovah puts it into the mind of the Governments to attack religion.

  So basically, God starts the end of the world. Of course there may be nu-lite.
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  Puerto Rico Special Convention 2016 Video

  by darkspilver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  never a jw.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6289070416199680/dressed-up-five-days-ahead-special-assembly-puerto-rico.

  an hour ago i went to bid good bye my two brothers in law and their wives (all elders/elderettes).

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  What's with the logo for the convention? Isn't that an image of a guard turret at La Forteleza? So music with pagan roots and images of a colonial fort and prison are okay now?
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  Are Gods true worshippers on Earth today? If they are not JWs then who are they?

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  is there gods true worshipers on earth today as jesus said there would be?

  if they are not jws then who are they?.

  who else comes close to being gods true followers today?.

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  Many on this forum after the WT experience find no basis to believe in a god. Maybe the question should be what are true worshipers supposed to worship?
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  New Secret JW Club Forms Preparing for the Great Tribulation

  by xjwsrock in

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  sign up today!.

  before it is too late!.

  introducing the u.u.u.. ..... wait for it..... .... the unarmed uneducated underground.

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  Do they hand out metro eyeglasses at the door?
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  Using the term "Watchtower" when talking to a JW

  by Sanchy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  has anyone else noticed how alarm bells go off inside a jw mind as soon as they hear someone that "is out" refer to the leaders of this org as "watchtower"?

  i've chatted with a few friends now about my doubts and each and every time i've started using phrases such as "watchtower said this" or "watchtower did that", i can almost see their heads about to explode in anger, as if they've just realized they are talking to the lucifer himself.

  some have even interrupted and corrected me by reminding me that it's not "watchtower", it's "god's organization".

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  Is it?
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  My Favouite Inappropriate Watchtower Pictures

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'd love to see you're favorite wt illustrations/photo's that they think are fine to print - but are actually kind of creepy/wierd.. .

  here's my three fave from my book of bible stories (yes, a book for children!)..

  man gets his head nailed into the floor with a tent pin by a good jehovah worshipper:.

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  From the 1941 book "Children" depictions of nude torture...all thanks to "Judge" Rutherford
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  My first memoir of a life as a born in.

  by ctrwtf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with no guarantees as to performance, i'm going to attempt to regularly address in memoir form some of the issues that i think about as a born in that has faded.

  i will try to do so on a (semi) regular basis.

  like proust and his madelienes, i've noticed that certain experiences trigger memories about the cult that just won't go away.

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  With no guarantees as to performance, I'm going to attempt to regularly address in memoir form some of the issues that I think about as a born in that has faded. I will try to do so on a (semi) regular basis. Like Proust and his madelienes, I've noticed that certain experiences trigger memories about the cult that just won't go away. The first memory I wish to discuss deals with education.

  Last night, the dear wife and I attended a meeting of new parents whose children are attending a small private school.

  Now, before you think this is some elitist crap, let me say that the DW and I are working stiffs that are doing without to help our kid make it through the zoo that is high school. Most of the parents that were there are in the same boat, trying to give their kids a leg up in this world, which leads to my point...

  Both the DW and I remember being indoctrinated as to the uselessness of "worldly" education. She took an early graduation at 16 and went straight into pioneering. I vividly recall listing in a High School questionnaire that my aspirations were to become a janitor. Can you believe that? It's a miracle that I remember "i before e except after c." Looking back, all I can think about is how deluded and privileged we thought we were.

  Anyway, here's the kicker. Post-fade the DW earned a Bachelors in psychology and is working towards a Masters. She's also using her education to help kids that are in desperate situations. She regularly thinks about the years she spent trying to indoctrinate people into a cult, and how her life now is much, much more fulfilling. While I'm a member of the tribe of the great unwashed and under-educated, I'm happy to support my loved ones that are working hard to make the world a better place. Did I mention that my other kid is an RN? So much for the teaching that when you leave the "truth" your life goes off the rails.

  Yet there are still people "in" that think the best way to live life is by attracting others to a publishing corporation by spending countless hours in front of a literatrash cart as the disinterested pass by. Go figure.

  Until I taste the next madeliene,
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  Carts in Market Street, San Francisco

  by darkspilver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, kinda at least the jw carts aren't making a noise .

  outside powell st station, opposite the westfield centre in market street, san francisco.

  street view: https://goo.gl/maps/usgcsjsntwz.

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  Definitely adds to the dignity of the message...........
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  Are you sad or angry?

  by raven in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  after exiting the org, i mean cult, how have each of you felt personally about the lies you had been taught, the hurt from feeling betrayed by these people, actual hopes of once believed false teachings, rose colored lenses of seemingly just and right doctrines that turned out to be a bunch of horse $#!+, the shunning of family and friends?

  right now i am going through the motions, i've just moved to a new home, which means hopefully no more elders searching for me at my previous address.. i can't help but feel sad though right now because of the fact that although i am not df'd ( maybe the elders will do it in absentia assuming i've been avoiding them and the 2 jc's they've invited me to as well as the last handwritten letter at my door before i moved ) my mom treats me as though i am dead to her, she says " i am living the life of a disfellowshipped person, and until i come back to jehovah this is how things will be because this was my choice to leave jehovah " ok i get it, but i don't- everyone has free will, so yes this was my choice but it is also her choice to shun me, especially after the "shun unrepentant wrongdoers" talk at the rc, funny how they come out with these talks to reel members back in.. she claims that she has an obligation to jehovah of which she promised to him after she was baptized not at 11, 13, or 17 ( young ages ) but fricken 26 years old.

  i absolutely hate this organization and everything that it is, it's taken away my family and most importantly my own mother.. i always thought that a mothers love was to be unconditional, but hers for me is only conditional.

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  My two cents....anger is a more productive emotion. Because you are also correct in your beliefs and conclusions regarding the cult, Righteous anger is even better. Let it guide you to write off the emotional baggage that comes with leaving the cult and move on to people and things that you have no need to be angry with or sad about.