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  Where is YOUR evidence?????

  by Night Owl in

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  where is the evidence you were "wronged", "mistreated", dis-fellowshipped for no reason, blah, blah, blah.. some of you seem to want "evidence" to provide credibility to other's statements at times.. where is your evidence?.

  nightowl.

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  TOTH

  This isn't a legal trial. I have the right to choose whether or not I will accept the way the wt has mistreated and lied to me. I do NOT have to justify my actions to any jw. EVER...
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  Are you benefiting from Theocratic Ministry School ?????????

  by wasblind in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "___________young people ask book page 178. .

  speak in a manner that shows that you are convinced of the truthfulness and importance of what you are saying"________theocratic ministry school book page 194. .

  "the generation that was alive at the beginning of the fullfilment of the sign in 1914 is now well along in years.

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  TOTH

  LOL @ Mr. Freeze's answer. GOOD LUCK I say! Stupid ministry school.

  Get a load of this...

  Back in Albuquerque there was a young kid who did the number 2 bible reading. The School Overlord FELL ASLEEP! An attendant had to wake him up! So he goes up there and says, GOOD! Very good job.

  WTF!

  So the next week here comes the same kid to do the number 2 again. LOL I said NUMBER TWO! LOL

  So the overlord stayed awake and told the kid that he had to go back home and have his parents TEACH him to read!

  No one benefits from the stupid school...
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  The Worst jw Is Better Than The BEST Worldly Person

  by TOTH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  did anyone else used to hear this?

  i can remember this growing up in the 1970s.

  my folks joined the wt back in 1968 under threat of armageddon coming in 1975. i was in first grade and ran the gauntlet of no flag salute, national anthem, holidays and no worldly friends.

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  TOTH

  Did anyone else used to hear this? I can remember this growing up in the 1970s. My folks joined the wt back in 1968 under threat of Armageddon coming in 1975. I was in first grade and ran the gauntlet of no flag salute, National Anthem, holidays and NO WORLDLY FRIENDS. Of course growing up in Espanola NM and then later in Albuquerque there were no jw kids around that I could hang around with. It sort of helped that I did one school year in my first three schools. But in 4th grade I made a great friend named James.

  Well, my parents were VERY strict about NO FRIENDS coming to the house and we were NOT to go to anyone's house either. But I had my friend James and several others I could play with at school. I could play at home with my brother and sister, but everyone else would come by and ask us to play ball or ride bikes and my folks would shoo them away. I would have to try to explain to my friends why that was. James was one who understood.

  Well when 1975 came with no Armageddon, my folks cooled off and stopped going to the kh for awhile. We could have James and Manny and the others over but could STILL not go their houses. My mom said that she didn't want it said that we were "EN LAS CASAS", which translates to being IN THE HOUSES aka being mooches and pests. In Jr. High they didn't do the flag salute anymore and I made more friends. Things were looking better until the doosh elders came around all mealymouthed err uhh memorial...Blah blah blah. So we went to that satanic ritual, denied the blood and body of the Christ and got dragged into going back to every single meeting. There went all the friends again. So NOW to try to explain to kind young people WHY they were no longer welcome in our home was painful. My folks just ran them off with no explanation. THAT was left to me.

  I was upset about this and especially about losing the company of my friend James. My dad said, "The worst witness is better than the best worldly person." WOW! I actually went for that. If I knew then that witness kids were being sodomized and otherwise victimized I would have never gone for it. But eventually after three or four months of no real response on 1975 and seeing the shitty way the witnesses were. And hearing FROM THE PLATFORM not to throw out the magazines because they were the NEW SCROLLS to be used in paradise, my folks once again cooled off and quit attending. My friends could once again come over and things were ok. Until memorial time the foloowing year. This cycle went on for several years until I went to high school. By then there was no reining me in.

  As time went by I did finally get baptized in order to get the elders off my parents' back so they would get off mine. I palyed the game but kept my friend James who was raised in the Assemblies of God Church. I know my friend 41 years this coming June and am glad he understood the mayhem the wt caused me. We live far apart but keep in touch by phone and email. When my brother died in 2010 at the age of 46, I only got any kind words from James, my other childhood friends, and of course family. My father in law did know and liked my brother so he is the only one from my wife's loving uber jw family that expressed any kindness about the tragedy of losing my brother.

  I can attest that most worldly people have more love and kindness in their little finger than most jw's do in their entire being.

  How about you guys and gals? Ever hear that the Worst Witness is better that the best worldly person???

  Thanks for letting me rant...
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  Does the Watchtower magazine carry more weight than the Bible?

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last week as i listened to the public talk, i noticed.

  that several times the speaker referred to the watchtower.

  as the source of authority.. he said that "in the july1, 1980 watchtower page 15. paragraph 4 it says".... it is like he was looking up a bible.

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  I always say that if today the gb said that Jesus was not born of a Virgin named Mary but was instead hatched from a chicken egg that every single jw would have to agree or be thrown out of the org.
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  4/15 WT- WTS Doesn't Care about your Happiness- Just JW's Obedience

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  been off the board for about 6 days or so battling a nasty bout of vertigo that hit me early this week.

  at least my heads not spinning so i can think straight now to type a thread.

  in this article titled, " maintain a complete heart towards jehovah " ( which should be called ' maintain a complete heart towards the wt society ) - wt society uses a lame illustration of a field laborer desiring family - yet missapplies this to jw's desiring " things of satan's world".. on page 15 it states, " a field laborer is busy plowing.

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  I'm glad you're feeling better. Like the thread!

  The wt is an evil empire.
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  DF'd man tries to poison the Elder that DF'd him.

  by cantleave in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/church-leader-poisons-rival/story-e6frea6u-1226288214719.

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  This guy MUST be insane! The elder does him the greatest favor and he tried to poison him. ASS!
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  if you were gb what new ideas would you come up with???

  by mP in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  firstly a few rules.. - increase in numbers primary goal.

  - new laws must feel the same as past ones.. - cant revolutionize and feel mainstream, .

  - changing doctrine acceptable, only cant change everything at once.

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  TOTH

  Sit on the pot and squeeze out gassy and chunky doctrine like always.
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  tree fell on neighbor's house today

  by finally awake in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went home for lunch, and the weather was beautiful.

  an hour later, the storm sirens went off and we got some hail and really high winds.

  the house across the street from us used to belong to the former po of the local kingdom hall.

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  Lucky lady! I bet the PO says it was Jehovah's HAND in it...Moving him and his family out of harm's way. I don't know him but he's an ASS! All PO's I ever knew were ASSES so he is a stupid ass like them...LOL
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  Are black people more emotional than white people

  by barry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i see in churches in the states standing up in church dancing, clapping their hands and being quite emotional even in a church.

  things which that wouldnt be acceptable in australia.. the link below also shows black sda ministers dressed in clergy style dress which is quite unusual for ministers here in australia.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yynbdm0unsw&feature=g-all&context=g2e791f1faaaaaaaamaas .

  could any of my american friends inform me i showed it to my father who is a lay preacher and he was mistified as to what tradition this dress comes from but seems to be concentrated to th eblack community also?.

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  TOTH

  I have seen some VERY emotional congregations of people. I don't think it has so much to do with the race of the people as it does with the leadership of the group and the passion of individuals. And of course so many in the groups are just putting it on....
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Die In Bus Crash On Way To Meeting

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sad indeed!

  i was searching online when i came across these headlines.

  early reports say that as many as 27 jws died in a bus crash in ecuador while on their way to a meeting a couple of weeks ago.

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  TOTH

  God doesn't intervene in anything. We live life on borrowed time in my pathetic view. I am sad to ehar that people died in that crash. But I am sad anytime I hear that people die. Such loss.