Posts by Tater-T

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The apparent contradiction of John 3:13

by EdenOne in

the wts uses john 3:13 to prove that before jesus no one was taken to heaven.. in the nwt, john 3:13 reads:"moreover, no man has ascended into heaven but he that descended from heaven, the son of man.".

notice a difference to the king james bible:.

john 3:13 - "and no man has ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the son of man who is in heaven.

Tater-T

comments?

I have one... It's stuff like this that made me an atheist... I could no longer believe in something that could be subject to such varying opinions at what it may or may not mean..

The fact that you have to go to such great lengths to figure it out .. some people may never have the time in their life too .. others may never have the intellect...

I't s not what you were looking for I'm sure .. but I'm in an over posting phase again.. and it's my observation on this matter.. I do like you and your post though..

you've actually made look afew things up in the bible.. LOL

keep it up...

L8R T8R

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Fading ... and Feeling Lost

by What Now? in

prior to that we had been in a new congregation for about 9 months, and we were just irregular.

my husband rarely went, and i would go occasionally with our toddler son just enough to show our faces and keep the elders off our backs, and for the sake of some friendships in our old hall.

all of the reasons i had for going were just no longer important.

Tater-T

I know how you feel ..it's been 20+ years since I've been out and I've never made any real friends .. that's why I'm always on here.. It makes me feel like I'm near people who understand me, which I've never felt before..

Ok enough of that.. go to an event that you probably never would have thought of going to.. just look in your local event section of your paper ..

pick something a concert, comedy.. sporting .. whatever .. don't go because of the event .. go just to be around a crowd of people..bump into people

get out and just be around people .. It'll make you feel better..I promise .. sometimes I go to the store just to bump into people and say," Oh I'm sorry and flash my big grin excuss me"..then They smile back and ..ahh the free warmth of human contact.. and I usually ask every worker I come into contact with at that store ," How you doing today"

you don't have to make new friends right away but, do not let yourself become an anti-social hermit .. get out

anyway I hope you find some happiness..if you can't..... make some.. it's all around you..

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Valedictorian Rips Up Preapproved Speech, Recites Prayer Instead

by Sam Whiskey in

jw
friends

really proud of this young man for his speech.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nir4zbz18e.

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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/valedictorian-rips-preapproved-speech-recites-prayer-instead-172941933.html.

Tater-T

I don't read every Terry thread anymore ( to long sometimes).. he is a great poster , and when I first got on the site, couldn't stop reading his stuff for days..

he is a good example of my point .. maybe not the best .. now that you mention it flipper is .. I don't know how they do it..

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Valedictorian Rips Up Preapproved Speech, Recites Prayer Instead

by Sam Whiskey in

jw
friends

really proud of this young man for his speech.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nir4zbz18e.

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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/valedictorian-rips-preapproved-speech-recites-prayer-instead-172941933.html.

Tater-T

when ever I see some one who comments on every single comment, whether those said comments are directed at them or not..

it's one of those things that make me go HUmmmmm ... why a person feels compeled to answer everything and everyone on a thread they didn't start..

they must THINK they are pretty smart!!'

on the other hand the ones who answer everyone on the threads they start .. I'm like wow they are very sharp.. example Terry

sorry if this is off topic but, with the activity on this thread it's tough to ignore .. I felt compeled to comment.. I've had this observation for some time and no where to share it ..

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Elders who criticized brothers talks for being TOO strict?

by toto555 in

did this ever happen to you?

did you ever try to teach god's word the way it was supposed to be rendered only to deal with elders and others who wanted you to "tone it down" or have your "words seasoned with salt" although you weren't saying anything wrong.

you were just telling the truth and they didn't want to hear it.

Tater-T

It's all about control... it's like them telling me the end is near .. the end is near .. as soon as I say it.....

It's .." simmer down you don't wanna serve jehovah for a date .. nobody knows the hour "

I'm not serving for a date .. then why be in a dooms day cult.. LOL

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How can one understand unusual personal experiences such as when going from door-to-door?

by Fernando in

given that i know how corrupt, dishonest and evil the watchtower is, i have wondered how to understand a personal experience i had many years ago - long before walking out mid-2009.. after an unusual series of many "co-incidences" on a particular sunday, my friend and i ended up at the door of someone who had been praying to god for someone to be sent to him, and who was expecting us.. i am still convinced it was by divine intervention, but cannot understand why a prayer is answered by sending representatives of an apostate organisation.. also when taking up residence in a foreign country, under very difficult circumstances, i twice ended up "inadvertently" moving in to homes just around the corner from the kh.

on one occasion it was about a 15 metre walk from my front door right into my seat in the kh!.

have you had similar experiences?.

Tater-T

you were going door to door for what you thought was God .. you ended up at the door of someone who was praying to God ...for someone to come to his door..

You were not there for God but, but a book publishing company.. so no prayer was answered...

let me bottom line it for you .. you were going door to door .. chances are pretty good that some one might have prayed before you got there..

It happened to me more than once in my fields service experience..

you go to enough doors something will end up seeming intentional ,

it would be odd if that scenario never happened .. what are the odds of going door to door looking for people looking for God and you never found ONE.. very slim

hope that puts it into perspective .. it is what is .. not divine intervention

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2013 Sept WT out

by Gayle in

could only just quickly scan it.

still trying to 'duck' out of 1914.. in a similar way, at the beginning.

of the 20th century, there were a number.

Tater-T

So some details were not meant to be understood at first.

or later or ever ... so you can never know when your understanding is correct.... with that logic..

we've been wrong countless times... but we got it now .. not then .. now .. not yet ... now .. hold on missed again .. right now .. now we got it for sure..

The watchtower couldn't look any stupider...

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Did Jesus lie or just changed his mind?

by EdenOne in

john 7:8-10.

"go up to the festival yourselves.

i'm not going to this festival yet, because my time has not yet fully come.

Tater-T

sorry Ray I didn't think a " the bible is crap post" was out of line on a thread where believers are trying to figure out if Jesus is a liar...

really you believe in him for salvation... but wait, help me with this verse it apears he might be lying... I'm not sure .lol

you are still my hero .. I'm glad you made it out of one cult...

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what proves jw's aren't true?

by jwfacts in

i am inactive and it took years of doubt to convince myself the jw's arent true.

i started doubting because i hated the idea that jehovah would kill 6 billion non-jw's.

the thing now that is the most important proof for me is that until 1954 jw's worshipped jesus and it is still in the watchtower charter, even though you now get disfellowshipped for worshipping jesus.

Tater-T

LOL .. I know he used to be big on how Jehovah reads hearts... evidenty he had the same skill

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what proves jw's aren't true?

by jwfacts in

i am inactive and it took years of doubt to convince myself the jw's arent true.

i started doubting because i hated the idea that jehovah would kill 6 billion non-jw's.

the thing now that is the most important proof for me is that until 1954 jw's worshipped jesus and it is still in the watchtower charter, even though you now get disfellowshipped for worshipping jesus.

Tater-T

It always bothered me that, when in the door to door work, with a zealous MS future elder, householder wanted free in home bible study without WT publication ..

He would say, " we could BUT... yadda yadda... yadda ... run away "

then as we were running away tell me," Well we could BUT.. when someone says that .. it's obvious they don't have the right heart condition.."

great thread.. interesting the posters still at it all these years....