2013 Sept WT out

by Gayle 36 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Gayle
    Gayle

    could only just quickly scan it. Still trying to 'duck' out of 1914.

    In a similar way, at the beginning

    of the 20th century, there were a number

    of wrong expectations among true

    Christians regarding “the last days.”

    (2 Tim. 3:1) For instance, in the year

    1914, some thought that their being taken

    to heaven was imminent

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    (also)

    sorry, can't change the font size here,,,but also another intimidating reference about another 10 yr getting baptized,, poor kids, ugh

  • sir82
    sir82
    For instance, in the year
    1914, some thought that their being taken
    to heaven was imminent

    That's hysterical.

    Yeah, if by "some" you mean "every single person who believed exactly what Chuck Russell wrote about the year 1914".

  • blondie
    blondie
    http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/failed-1914-predictions.php

    (see for scans)

    144,000 All Resurrected to Heaven

    The 144,000, also known as the "body of Christ" or "the saints", were to all be in heaven by 1914, prior to the completion of Armageddon.

    "That the deliverance of the saints must take place some time before 1914 is manifest, since the deliverance of fleshly Israel, as we shall see, is appointed to take place at that time... Just how long before 1914 the last living members of the body of Christ will be glorified, was are not directly informed;..." Studies In the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come (1908 ed.) p.228

    Studies in the Scriptures after 1914

    Editions of Studies in the Scriptures written prior to 1914 were very specific about what would happen prior to and during 1914. These journals continued to be used after 1914. To overcome the obviously erroneous predictions in 1915 they were reissued with amendments.

    For example the 1908 edition of Studies In the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come stated on p.228 that the resurrection would occur before 1914. The 1915 edition changed this to state that the resurrection was to occur soon after 1914.

    Studies In the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come 1908 Ed.Studies In the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come 1915 Ed.
    "That the deliverance of the saints must take place some time before 1914 is manifest, since the deliverance of fleshly Israel, as we shall see, is appointed to take place at that time, and the angry nations will then be authoritatively commanded to be still, and will be made to recognize the power of Jehovah's Anointed. Just how long before 1914 the last living members of the body of Christ will be glorified, we are not directly informed; but it certainly will not be until their work in the flesh is done; nor can we reasonably presume that they will long remain after that work is accomplished. With these two thought in mind, we can approximate the time of the deliverance."
    Click here for scan of 1911 version
    "That the deliverance of the saints must take place very soon after 1914 is manifest, since the deliverance of fleshly Israel, as we shall see, is appointed to take place at that time, and the angry nations will then be authoritatively commanded to be still, and will be made to recognize the power of Jehovah's Anointed. Just how long after 1914 the last living members of the body of Christ will be glorified, we are not directly informed; but it certainly will not be until their work in the flesh is done; nor can we reasonably presume that they will long remain after that work is accomplished."

    The 1915 Mar 1 issue of the Watch Tower admitted to these changes in the following article.

    "CHANGES IN "SCRIPTURE STUDIES"
    We call attention to a few slight changes which have been made in four pages of Vol. II. and six pages of Vol. III., "STUDIES IN THE SCRIPTURES." These are all trivial and do not alter the real sense and lesson, but conform to the facts as we have them today. The pages containing these corrections are as follows:
    Vol. II., page 77, line 1, "will be the farthest limit," reads "will see the disintegration."
    Vol. II., page 77, line 6, "will obtain full universal control," reads "will begin to assume control."
    Vol. II., page 77, lines 16,17, "end of A.D. 1914," reads "end of the overthrow."
    Vol. II., page 81, line 9, "can date only from A.D. 1914," reads "could not precede A.D. 1915."
    Vol. II., page 170, line 16, "at that time they will all be overturned."*
    *How long it will require to accomplish this overturning we are not informed, but have reason to believe the period will be short.
    Vol. II., page 221, line 25, "full favor until A.D. 1914," reads "full favor until after 1915."
    Vol. III., page 94, line 29, "in this end or harvest," reads "at the end of this harvest."
    Vol. III., page 126, line 12, "at A.D. 1914," reads "after 1914."
    Vol. III., page 133, line 21, "ere the harvest is fully ended."+
    +The end of the harvest will probably include the burning of the tares.
    Vol. III., page 228, line 11, "some time before 1914," reads "very soon after 1914."
    Vol. III., page 228, line 15, "just how long before," reads "just how long after."
    Vol. III., page 362, line 11, "some time before," reads "some time near."
    Vol. III., page 364, line 14, "must not only witness," reads "may not only witness.""
  • Larsinger58
    Larsinger58

    That's hysterical.

    Yeah, if by "some" you mean "every single person who believed exactly what Chuck Russell wrote about the year 1914".

    No problem. The Bible prophesied there would be some stumbling and some "refining" of those with insight.

    Daniel 11:35 And some of those having insight will be made to stumble, in order to do a refining work because of them and to do a cleansing and to do a whitening, until the time of [the] end; because it is yet for the time appointed."

    So some details were not meant to be understood at first.

  • designs
    designs

    Are you of the 'Replacements'.

  • punkofnice
    punkofnice

    there were a number of wrong expectations

    ...and it was twat Russell that set those expectations because he bally well told them as we see above.

    This is typical JW SPIN and it's propaganda 101.

  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley

    Larsinger:

    So some details were not meant to be understood at first.

    --

    This is typical WT rhetoric.

    The only conclusion, then, is that god intentionally sent a lie into his supposed chosen people or sat idly by and watched them promote a lie.

    Either way, it's stupid.

  • Tater-T
    Tater-T

    So some details were not meant to be understood at first.

    or later or ever ... so you can never know when your understanding is correct.... with that logic..

    we've been wrong countless times... but we got it now .. not then .. now .. not yet ... now .. hold on missed again .. right now .. now we got it for sure..

    The watchtower couldn't look any stupider...

  • wasblind
    wasblind

    Why have there been changes over the years in the teachings of the Jehovah' Witnesses ?

    " The apostles of jesus realized that there was much they did not understand in their time. "

    " Increased knowledge often requires adjustmenst in one's thinkin'. Jehovah's Witnesses are willing to humbly make such adjustments."____Reasoning from the Scriptures book page 205

    LOL

    Y'all know the WTS has the Troof, the whole troof, and nothin BUT !!!!!!

    Y'all know the troof changes as the light gets brighter, until the day is firmly established

    Which means the WTS will change the troof as often as they need

    to avoid bein' convicted as a false prophet

    LOL. Stand in front of a judge after you commit a crime and tell 'em

    the reason you had " Adjustments " in your story is because you

    realized that there was much you did not " understand "

    Like how much time you will serve for that crime

    Tell 'em all the "adjustments " in your story drove you slap crazy

    Plead insanity

    Accordin' to the Jehovah's Witnesses you should get off free and clear

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  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley

    Tater-T:

    so you can never know when your understanding is correct.... with that logic..

    ---

    Exactly! But in WT "logic" a JW is supposed to find that a satisfying answer.

    In other words, we have absolute truth...until we change it (again).

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