Posts by wallsofjericho

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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wallsofjericho

i suppose a symbolic 144k would be a big change too....

sloppyjoe

I posted elsewhere that I suspect the reason behind the the recent 1914 revival is not to embed it, but to prepare the R&F for a change.
If they don't understand it now, they will be more confused with a change. If they can be comfortable with the "math" now, the change can be slighly introduced in a way that doesn't shock their system so to speak. it will just be a minor change to one variable but that will change the whole thing... kind of like 606 to 607 & no zero year changes but this time its enough to knock out 1914, at least as a starting point for all last days prophecies or to align the 587BCE destruction of Jerusalem into the JW eschatology

perhaps the 7 times really are just 7 years? perhaps the 3.5 times will be disconnected from Daniel? these are big shake ups to the old school JW for sure

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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wallsofjericho

I think a huge change in literature, e.g. combining the WT and Asleep! into a JW.org magazine would be significant. . .

this has been my speculation. A complete rebranding of the WTS. Watchower only existing as the study edition so they can say its been continuous since 1874 or whatever. Other than that, JW(.org) Magazine. The WTS will be renamed with JW something or other

but I don't see this being "faith testing". The mags have been revamped as if to prepare for this change already without a blink and the R&F are eating up the JW.org bit.

lets think about it, we have all discussed ad nauseum what the BOrg could do to cause a mass exodus and we can't really come up with anything short of major criminal charges

the only doctrinal changes that could really test the faith of the R&F is a major shift in the 1914 teaching (perhaps tied with a 607 change).

they would never make a big pomp about blood with a zone visit, they would phase this in over decades. Anything other big change wouldn't be that big. What else could they change that hasn't been already?

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Undeniable proof the Organisation has Jehovahs Blessing and Direction

by wheelwithinwheel in

jw
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wallsofjericho

ive never worn a vest in my life

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MY CONCLUSION IS: 'GOD' DOESN'T EXIST

by NAVYTOWN in

jw
friends

i have come to the conclusion that there is no god.

period!!!

if there was a loving, righteous, all-knowing, all powerful god up there somewhere, where is he and what good is he???

wallsofjericho

Life at an atomic level is far too complex to have just happened by chance.

*** more complex than an omnipotent God with no beginning?

Evolution is a giant roulette table in the sky with a trillion or more to 1 chance of happening.

*** this argument always makes me laugh. Forget what the odds of an ominpotent god existing out of nothing is, but a trillion to 1 might as well be a 100% chance of happening when you have unlimited time. Of course a trillion to 1 is your figure, I'd say more like 14.5 Billion : 1, which of course as we all know did in fact happen just as the statistic predicts.

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MY CONCLUSION IS: 'GOD' DOESN'T EXIST

by NAVYTOWN in

jw
friends

i have come to the conclusion that there is no god.

period!!!

if there was a loving, righteous, all-knowing, all powerful god up there somewhere, where is he and what good is he???

wallsofjericho

punkofnice

excellent pic, that is truth

for those that claim atheism creates more questions than it answers please answer the question how God came into existence BEFORE you presuppose your argument that God existing is an easily accepted fact

if your answer to that question is "we don't know" or has anything to do with faith then your argument is at best no better than atheism and at worst complete garbage

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MY CONCLUSION IS: 'GOD' DOESN'T EXIST

by NAVYTOWN in

jw
friends

i have come to the conclusion that there is no god.

period!!!

if there was a loving, righteous, all-knowing, all powerful god up there somewhere, where is he and what good is he???

wallsofjericho

the universe owes us nothing

we exist for no reason or purpose.

the fact we exist is mere coincidence, so live in the now and be happy. In 100 years all of us will be dust for eternity

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Does ANYONE use RSS anymore?

by nicolaou in

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just wondering .

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wallsofjericho

i don't even know how it works

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Throw Out Your Blood Cards!

by Coded Logic in

ex-jehovah's witness bled to death after surgery .

in 2006, riddell signed a declaration that she did not want to be given blood during any medical procedure because of her jehovah's witness beliefs, even if healthcare providers believed that it was necessary to preserve her life.. she later stopped practising the religion but her brother told hill she maintained the declaration because she had researched the use of blood transfusions and made an informed decision not to receive any blood.. riddell opted for the surgery after being diagnosed with symptomatic gallstones, hill said.. parry met with riddell before the surgery but did not discuss receiving blood with her as he told hill the chances of someone bleeding during the surgery were less than one per cent.. that meant the surgery began at wairau hospital at 9am without parry knowing about the declaration, although his anaesthetist did.. it was originally supposed to be a keyhole only surgery, but parry made the decision to go to an open surgery as he could not access the gall bladder through the keyhole technique.. during the surgery there was a small amount of bleeding, which parry was unconcerned about.. the surgery finished at 11.15am and parry went away to perform another surgery.

during that time, riddell's blood pressure dropped and fluids increased.. the anaesthetist visited parry during his surgery and told him "we have a problem, she's bleeding.

wallsofjericho

I shredded mine,

if you work on a KH build site you have to check off that you have a medical directive when you sign in

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Not on JW.org: SIX Texas victims acuse Jehovah's Witness Elder & Circuit Overseer of sexual abuse, and bring lawsuit against Watchtower for cover-up.

by Balaamsass2 in

sexual exploitation and abuse of six young children leads to lawsuit in dallas county.

dallas, oct. 23, 2014 /news.gnom.es/ six young adults, from north texas, all sexually abused as children, filed suit today in dallas, texas state court against three north texas jehovahs witnesses congregations (dallas, plano, and greenville), the watchtower bible and tract society of new york, and an elder.. sexually abused when they were ages 4 through 14, the plaintiffs were children of members of the dallas, plano, and greenville jehovahs witnesses congregations.

the suit states that they were repeatedly sexually abused and molested by an elder and an unknown regional circuit overseer, and that they and their families were threatened with discipline and harm if they disclosed the abuse to anyone.

wallsofjericho

soon shepherding calls will all be on video conference so no chance of sexual contact

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The REAL purpose of the new 1914 explanation video...

by Calebs Airplane in

when a dub starts to question an elder about this doctrine (at the kh, field circus or wherever), the elder will only need to utter these words: "just watch the video".... .

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wallsofjericho

i think something is up with this.....

why all of a sudden is there this great urgency to get the R&F up to date on the 1914 calculation?

They acknowledge in the demonstration how we all need refreshers on this since its easy to forget (Funny how I have no problem remembering how it works but the "believers" can't seem to keep it straight)

Is this just a way to get the R&F confident in WTS math again? After all, we KNOW they are right about 1914 so how could we doubt 607 ?

Look at the SIGNIFICANT "thing" that happened in 1914! This coincidence somehow PROVED beyond any doubt we were right.. right?

wait a sec... who was right?? CHARLES RUSSEL was right... NOT THE F&DS. How did a NON-F&D Slaver make such a discovery?

Is it possible to speculate that the reason they are refreshing everyone's memory on this is because a change is on the horizon??

after all, it wouldn't be the F&DS's mistake, it was just CTR's error

Could the 1914 math be reworked to accomodate a change to 607? perhaps the same way it was reworked to allow the 606 to 607 change without shifting 1914-1915

The GB has been somewhat silent on the depth of 1914 the past few years, seeming just "referring" to it instead of opening it up for conversation. Why the change?

I always ask the question: "what's in it for them?"

well WTS,,,, what's in this new 1914 revival for you?