Posts by wallsofjericho

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Some Info from the annual meeting

by thedepressedsoul in

up to 13 new songs will be released over time to equal a revised new song book and changes to songs in place due to the new bible.

the revised song book cover will look like the new bible.

new songs will be practiced at the service meeting.

wallsofjericho

it's almost as if the GB is "settling in" into this old system and getting comfortable. No more imminent end or brash statetments of types/antitypes

they are backing off, doing damage control and going mainstream(ish)

they need the persecution complex but holidays, birthdays and voting will always provide this.

I agree, blood will be a non-issue in 5-10 years. I don't think they'll make a big deal out of it. Quietly, in a QFR or small article they will sneak in obfuscated wording that doesn't smack in the face of blood refusal but opens the door for concientious transfusion. It will be between you and Jah and you aren't to share your decision/opinion with anyone.... kind of like organ transplants. hush hushAnd they'll still maintain an HLC to soften the blow for the hard liners. Within 2-3 years the HLC will be quielty discontinued

1914 will never be dropped, but the plethera of events tied to it are dropping like flies. This AGM continues this pattern of the past 5 years. Terms like "beginning of the harvest work" instead of "since 1914" slowly become the new axioms. This has already happened even with regard to 607BCE with only one referece to the year in an article followed by "since Babylon's conquest of Jerusalem..." etc.

we're not crazy... look! we have apps!

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Is the AGM today?

by hamsterbait in

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anybody going or who can give us the noolite hot from the gb a$$?.

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wallsofjericho

new song book??????

online only im sure

will push more to use tablets

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Is the AGM today?

by hamsterbait in

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anybody going or who can give us the noolite hot from the gb a$$?.

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wallsofjericho

this is great!

were hitting refresh to follow your posts!

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jw.org has an Armageddon countdown card on it. seriously.

by rebel8 in

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wallsofjericho

they can work this for the r&f

this was just a countdown to the last days and the perceived end of the preaching work

but they learned a lesson! just look at the 1915 year text! they now had to endure test and be refined, just like all of us today, sometimes things dont happen like we expected, will we too be able to drink the cup of jehovah?

typical WTS spin

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Is the AGM today?

by hamsterbait in

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anybody going or who can give us the noolite hot from the gb a$$?.

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wallsofjericho

absalem!!

your there now???

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Watchtower/Telecom Ownership Agreement!

by Atlantis in

watchtower-qcstelecom ownership agreement.. .

re: petition to transfer ownership of qcstelecom, inc., to watchtower bible and tract society.

http://documents.dps.ny.gov/public/common/viewdoc.aspx?docrefid=%7b57614a3f-7101-408a-8b25-b3499530db5a%7d.

wallsofjericho

ann o maly and undertheradar

I think your both onto the truth. The fact that the WTS actually stated the price for the company is presently unknown.... of course its known! $1.00 (!!)

this was set up from the beginning to allow the JW's to own a shell company.

I'm still not sure why they felt the need to actually own a company rather than just hire it out. Just money? smells fishy

WHEREAS, QCS is a corporation organized under the New York Transportation Corporations Law as a telecom company, and a Certificate of Public Convenience and Necessity was issued to QCS on November 15, 2011, by the New York Public Service Commission ("PSC") to operate in New York State as a facilities-based provider and reseller of telephone service, without authority to provide local exchange service; and WHEREAS, Watchtower is a not-for-profit corporation that owns three complexes of office, residence, and ancillary buildings located in or near the communities of Patterson, Wallkill, and Tuxedo, New York and is developing a fourth complex of such buildings at or near Warwick, New York, which complexes will have a combined population of approximately 5,000 on-site residents and staff providing religious and charitable services to the public; and WHEREAS, QCS intends to install a high-speed, fiber-optic network between Watchtower's facilities in Patterson, Wallkill, Tuxedo, and Warwick, New York, and, upon completion of the network, to enter into an output contract with Watchtower, under which Watchtower will purchase 100% of the network data, voice, and internet services that QCS can provide for use and benefit of the residents and staff living and working at Watchtower's complexes;

this was insightful - http://siteresources.worldbank.org/EXTFINANCIALSECTOR/Resources/282884-1303327122200/234Banno-607.pdf

I think were going to see the WTS creating telecomm services to its own branches and KH's world wide and getting government grants as a result.

Of course, KH's will agree to plege a monthly donation for these internet services that stream data directly from the mother ship to the congregation

this seems to lay it out the clearest...

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Do the Governing Body believe their own teachings or know it's a lie? Are they atheists?

by BucketShopBill in

the new young blood gb member, you think he really thinks this is the truth or is he protecting his financial interest like all the older gb members who enjoy basking in glory of men?

do you think they believe in the "over-lapping generation" or was that a mistake done by barr?.

how much of the watchtower and the bible do the governing body know, ray franz jr. said he was not impressed with their bible knowledge and their lack of knowledge of the watchtower cannon.

wallsofjericho

I share OnTheWayOut's sentiment

I think they honestly and sincerely believe Jah is running the Org. But when they get in the top seat, they can't help but feel a sense of dissappointment with reality.

Certainly any JW on the planet would imagine all sorts of divine direction and "guidance" from Jehovah amongst the GB. But once they get there, they're busy consulting the Legal Dept. about what they can and can't do in a situation, and consulting a research team about what they currently teach in print on a complicated subject and then directing another team to figure out a way to transition their old light into their end product new light.

There must be a sense of "business" when making the big decisions. The lack of "spiritual guidance" from Jah must be present. the feeling, the knowing that THEY are making a decision that will have consequences must make them feel like they are doing this on their own without Jehovah

I would imagine there are some among the GB that long for the old days of warm fuzzy ignorance to the reality of running a major corporation.

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Is truth relative?

by Pinku in

seeing various/changing laws on the same action, some may feel truth is relative, and there is no such thing as right and wrong.. yet a closer look at beneath the details would show that truth is not relative, and everyone knows what is right and wrong.. driving in the night by putting the head-light off is wrong, but right when country is in war with another country.

behind both the conflicting laws, the truth is same: safety and welfare of the people.

this is true of notion about what is right and wrong:.

wallsofjericho

yes?

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Why do you come here?

by love2Bworldly in

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i come here to learn, but i also come here because it feels like a private club and i'm privy to be a member of the "in" crowd.

it's a great place to socialize.

does anyone else feel that they are a member of a special "club" when they come here, that only some people in this world will understand the jw world?.

wallsofjericho

i don't read any WT articles anymore, i come here to benefit from those that do and share the "new light" so I can watch more football

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Was Charles Russell delusional or just a con artist?

by keyser soze in

i've seen him referred to as both on this forum.. did he sincerely believe that he was an inspired prophet whose end-time predictions and biblical interpretations came from god?

or was he just a shrewd businessman who saw a market of disillusioned christians who believed that armageddon was imminent that he could exploit?.

i personally lean toward the latter.. .

wallsofjericho

i think he sincerely believed what he taught. But after 1914 I am certain he finally felt the cold reality smack him in the face the same way Barbour did back in 1878, but by that time it was too late.

It seems after 1914 till his death in 1916, CTR really had nothing much to say about anything. After he dies Rutherford turned the religion on its head.

CTR must have realized he was a false prophet