So sorry about your loss Loubelle. Thinking of you. xx
tornapart
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My granny died.
by LouBelle inlast week friday i was delayed in going to work, for which i am glad.
it was an opportunity for me to help my gran one last time.
she thanked me, told me she loved me and that i would be very blessed.
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Bethel... Really the 'House of God'?
by tornapart injust wondering why they would call the headquartes 'bethel', supposedly the 'house of god'.. what is 'bethel' really?
the bible tells us that it was the centre of false worship started by jereboam and the golden calf worship.
(1 kings 12:28-33).
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tornapart
Cool Island Man! Looks like someone on there has their blinkers on.. LOL
EoM... it's a bit of an 'OMG' moment isn't it?!
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Bethel... Really the 'House of God'?
by tornapart injust wondering why they would call the headquartes 'bethel', supposedly the 'house of god'.. what is 'bethel' really?
the bible tells us that it was the centre of false worship started by jereboam and the golden calf worship.
(1 kings 12:28-33).
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tornapart
Just wondering why they would call the headquartes 'Bethel', supposedly the 'House of God'.
What is 'Bethel' really? The bible tells us that it was the centre of false worship started by Jereboam and the Golden Calf worship. (1 Kings 12:28-33)
Also Amos prophesied against it, saying: "Search for me, and keep living. And do not search for Bethel....as regards Bethel, it will become something uncanny." (Amos 5:4,5)
Interesting that once again Bethel has become the centre of 'calf' worship. We don't need Jesus Christ anymore, as the Israelites didn't need the temple at Jerusalem. All we need is the 'Organisation' for our salvation.
They say history repeats itself.
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Never Become Enraged with Jehovah (tomorrow's WT Study)....pure vomit
by raymond frantz innever become enraged against jehovah.
(watchtower study 7-13 october).
paragraph 4.
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tornapart
@RF.. brilliant answer.. I'm sure your elder's aposta radars all fully out now! I'm going to try that one with my elder hubby.
@IloveTTATT... that's exactly how my hubby is!!
@EoM.... I'm going to try that from now on! What a great way to keep the propaganda at bay!
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Stand For Pure Worship, what convinces you that the governing body is being used by Jehovah? Thanks.
by The Quiet One ini struggled with this question before i got baptised.
what helped you to overcome any doubts?.
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tornapart
This is a good thread for any of us because all the answers and reasonings given by others are what we could use ourselves with our loved ones still trapped inside. Some great thoughts here!
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A House Divided Against Itself Falls-Luke 11:17
by Stand for Pure Worship inthat text reminds me of one of a handful of problems peculiar to the ex-jw community.
second only to the wild beast's internal divisions, is the divided makeup of the ex-jw populace.
you know the one thing that indicates jehovah's blessing upon the worldwide association of kingdom proclaimers, is not only the continued success of the preaching work, but along with it the unity and love amongst the brothers and sisters.
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@Splash... I am too! (As I know are many others on this board)
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Come... take the free gift of the water of life!
by tec inpeace to you all!.
for some time now, i have been arguing and debating and discussing matters of god and the spirit (who is christ).
i have tried to share as he has given me to share whenever he gives me something to share.
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tornapart
Thankyou Tammy... have sent you a pm :)
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Mark Sanderson - Why Is the Newest GB Member Suddenly So Prominent?
by Oubliette ini've noticed something that is very odd even by wt/gb standards.
why is mark sanderson suddenly so prominent in all things wt/jw?.
others have commented on the obvious narcissism of the gb pushing themselves to the fore recently, in particular after their huge doctrinal change at proclaiming themselves and only themselves as the faithful and discreet slave.. this is clearly true as evidenced at the agm, not only throughout the agm, but also in the video that was featured as part of that meeting.
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tornapart
@SFPW.... Matt 23:8 " But you, do not you be called Rabbi, for one is your teacher, whereas all you are brothers."
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TIME TO KEEP QUIET
by The Searcher inwhen people stick their fingers in their ears and start singing 'la la la la la la' very loudly, (figuratively speaking) we have to take the hint that the person (for whatever reason) doesn't want to hear what you're trying to discuss with them.
it's incredibly frustrating when you know that they really need to hear what you've got to say.
it's like trying to get your neighbour to look at the puddle of brake fluid under their car - they hear you, but they don't look!.
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tornapart
My problem at the moment is trying not to answer questions. There are some (family and close friends) that know I have my doubts and want to know what it it I'm questioning. I say I don't want to say anything because I know how it could shake the way they feel about things. But still they ask and still want to know. I just drop one or two little things, things that won't rock the boat too much but still makes them think. It's a tricky balance to keep!
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For those who are still IN and attending meetings, do you still study the WT & other books?
by ohnightdivine infor those of you who are still attending meetings due to various reasons, how do you prepare yourself for each program?.
do you still read and study the wt?.
do you still read and study the okm, jeremiah, etc?.
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tornapart
I only read my bible now and if I want to understand some things in it then I look up different bible commentaries online. WT, I just flick through to see if I'm able to stomach it or not at the next meeting. If not, I don't go. I miss almost all mid week meetings. I never comment. I follow along in the WT in a foreign language that I'm learning, it makes it more interesting and the time goes faster.