A curious detail.... beards were already allowed in some countries. The Org has alway made some allowances when it comes to appearance in some countries where there are some cultural nuances.
redvip2000
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Beards are now allowed - New Light
by Listener inlett has announced in the latest video update that jehovah has dignified the brothers by now letting them to choose for themselves whether they want to have a beard or not -.
https://www.jw.org/en/news/region/global/2023-governing-body-update-8/.
this applies worldwide and to all brothers in any position..
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Where is Tony?
by Athanasius inon february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.
in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.
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redvip2000
I'm pretty sure that when the liquor store scandal broke out, the Org saw him more as a liability from an optics perspective and "asked" him to bow out gracefully. They gave him a house and a stipend in exchange of making sure he keeps quiet about the inner workings of the Org.
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Has anybody ever heard of this in their local area
by joe134cd ini heard of a jw wedding that:.
(a)wasn’t done in a kh, and was performed by an elder.
(b)the ceremony was done on a sunday.. i find this surprising for 2 reasons.
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redvip2000
I can tell you that when I got married, an elder officiated the ceremony and it was not held at a KH. And it was a Sunday I believe. So it can be done.
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Breaking news - no more reporting
by wannaexit ini didint search to see if its been talked about.
big news for jws sheeple , no more reporting.
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redvip2000
To do this, and to keep counting hours with pioneers makes no sense. This is almost like saying, we trust the regular publishers, but we need to keep an eye on pioneers.
The only thing that makes sense is to also go on an honor system with pioneers. If they do this, then those numbers will be nicely padded as well. More people will become pioneers knowing that nobody is looking anyway.
I suspect it won't be long before they do this.
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No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!
by BoogerMan inthis is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!
reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.
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redvip2000
Being a JW is so much easier now. No reports, no minimum hours. Litteratrash carts where you can just stand there and do nothing. Zoom meetings, zoom memorials.
The org is making it easier than every to be a cult member, hoping it will cause people to stick around and not leave. They have to do that. The writing is on the wall.
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Breaking news - no more reporting
by wannaexit ini didint search to see if its been talked about.
big news for jws sheeple , no more reporting.
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redvip2000
Predictable. If the numbers were great they wouldn't do this. The trend is to stop counting everything (except money) to hide the decline.
The Org is always right. Before Jws would defend this saying that Jellohoba wants his people to stay organized, reports are needed, bla bla bla.. Now i'm sure they will defend this too saying that only Jellohoba needs to keep track, we need to simplify things bla bla bla.
I always thought that eventually they would scrap preaching entirely, but with this move, they actually don't need to do that. They are basically saying..."preach if you want to preach, we don't care".
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If JW is not the truth, then what is the true religion?
by TxNVSue2023 ineven though i'm disfellowshiped ( & i belive wrongfully so).
i still belive this is the truth.
i have been d'f for about 8 months now and working on reinstatement.
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redvip2000
Most of us have gone through that journey. When I first stopped attending, I still thought the Org was the truth, though I saw holes in the doctrine, and I asked the same question of who else is better.
Then eventually I came to the conclusion JWs were not the truth, and there was probably no true religion, but I believed in God, so I decided I would go to a non-denomination church that only taught the bible.
Then I realized it didn't make sense to just assume the Bible was truth, because the only reason I believed in it was because I had been born in the West. If I had been born in the middle east I probably woudn't, so I decided I had to take a step back and stop assuming and actual question the teachings of the bible.
Finally after some years of this journey, I had no resort but to finally admit there was no real holy book, and no evidence that God even exists.
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Sign of the Last Days
by Fisherman inin the sermon on the mount, jesus foretold that earthquakes “in one place after another” would be part of the sign of the last days clímaxing in the great tribulation.. what could jesus possibly have meant?
using a phone app nowadays, there are earthquakes detected in one place after another but is this what jesus meant and did they have so many earthquakes throughout the centuries affter his prophecy or are these modern day detected earthquakes unique to this epoch?
how can we be sure unequivocally that modern day earthquakes are part of the sign fulfilling bible prophecy?.
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redvip2000
In that passage Jesus is basically talking about people if you read it. In that specific piece, the word he used I believe is translated as "agitations". Now, at some point some translators started using "earthquakes"
It doesnt' really fit with the passage. It makes a lot more sense to think that he meant there would be agitations of people, or people being agitated. That would fit a lot better with the things he was describing.
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Retirement savings
by TxNVSue2023 inwhat's the current jw stance on retirement savings?
i know it changed.
pre1975 it was an attitude of "don't worry about retirement, this system is ending soon".
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redvip2000
I've mentioned this before to people I know. If JWs really really believed in what they teach, they would sell their homes and plan to leave the last few years on savings in preparation for the big A.
Instead they instinctively know it's all BS, or at very best they are not really convinced it's true.
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And the lion shall eat straw like the ox
by Anony Mous inthe above verse is often quoted by jws both in general as a response to the idea of a deathless paradise and/or those promoting vegetarianism or veganism.. a letter in animal frontiers co-signed by nearly a thousand scientists is now warning that meat is crucial for a healthy lifestyle and livestock farming is too important to 'become the victim of zealotry'.. they stated the fact that most humans require the nutrients from eggs, meat and dairy and that plant based alternatives are at least 4x more expensive (which implies much higher energy consumption in the process) and not scalable and outright dangerous to global health to support a large population shift towards them.. they also called out several recent papers for misleading information and even called for the outright retraction of one that said meat substitutions are a viable alternative.. not sure what the modern jw view on this is, i know many people in the borg promoted it back in the day.
just goes to show that science does not support the notion of a global vegan diet..
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redvip2000
I remember when I was studying to be a JW, I had this thought about how many animals are perfectly adapted to eat meat and be hunters. When I asked my bible study conductor why these animals are built to hunt and eat meat he turn to me and said... "you know, sometimes you just have to have faith, and not question everything".
That should be been my queue to run away quickly.