Posts by Londo111

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Lloyd Evans' New Book - Is It Really Necessary?

by pale.emperor in

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friends

so lloyd evans will shortly be releasing his new book how to leave the jehovah's witnesses.

i do enjoy his rebuttals and the stuff he manages to get hold of and leak.

but i'm struggling to understand what he could possibly write to merit a whole book.. all info on how to leave is right here on this forum.

Londo111

Personally, I didn't see a need to read his first book. I can’t imagine what unique information could’ve been presented that was not in Crisis of Conscience or Apocalypse Delayed.

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Lloyd Evans' New Book - Is It Really Necessary?

by pale.emperor in

jw
friends

so lloyd evans will shortly be releasing his new book how to leave the jehovah's witnesses.

i do enjoy his rebuttals and the stuff he manages to get hold of and leak.

but i'm struggling to understand what he could possibly write to merit a whole book.. all info on how to leave is right here on this forum.

Londo111

While I don't like the unforgiving bashing of this man, or anyone else for that matter, and totally detest some of the made up allegations his opponents have brought up with zero evidence...

I agree. I can't imagine why this needs an entire book. I could see a chapter in a book. But there is better advice to be had online. For free.

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TIL - sunanamignumi vs. Shunning

by berrygerry in

interesting comment on this greek word - used three times according to strong's - .

http://biblehub.com/greek/sunanamignusthai_4874.htm .

comment on: .

Londo111

This was originally pointed out in one of Ray Franz's books...I believe In Search of Christian Freedom.

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Clearly, undeniably, without doubt ... is there a term for introducing a thought in such a way.

by jwfacts in

watchtower article often introduce a point that has no merit with words such a "undeniably.".

for instance the watchtower 2014 august 15 page 10 says:.

"jehovah undeniably blesses the preaching work of christian women and supports them in times of trial.

Londo111

We could compile a whole list of these words use a fudge factor to create an absolute assertion.

Without doubt

Evidently

Likely

Many have

By extension

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Leaked Videos-Petra-I need help!

by Atlantis in

leaked videos.i need help with these leaked videos.

grampa has a whole stack ofthem but they need to be reduced in size.i have never seen these videos before.

some are pretty large in size,so if someone could reduce their size and get them on youtube be myguest.

MaxPayne-2018 Regional Assembly Talk Outlines!

by Atlantis in

2018 regional assembly talk outlines.maxpayne:i wasn't sure if you wanted the english ones or the spanish outlines.

i hope i got the right ones for you, but if not we will try again.these are the ones in spanish and we are still waiting to get the onesin english.

as soon as they arrive i will post them for you.grampa put these in a zip folder.https://we.tl/tljfccp4vepetra!.

Londo111

Update us the moment it's translated in English.

Thanks!

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Do You Think a Schism is in the Future?

by lepermessiah in

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i was thinking about this over the weekend.

just this week, there was the "consolidation" talk (in my wife's congregation) , the article about shunning that went viral, and the annual "show your love and obedience to jehovah by giving us your money" watchtower.

i know my wife said people are running scared about this consolidation even though it was sold as maximizing space to help other areas, build kh in other countries, etc...... the media and government has hit them hard in many countries, but they have gotten off easy in the usa, where the majority of the people and money reside.

Londo111

Watchtower is adapt at stopping schisms before they start. Any groups have have broken away have been very small...the largest no bigger than a circuit. The cult mechanism is in place to quarantine any dissenting individuals and demonizing them to the max.

A schism would need to consolidate around a leader or leaders from the top. Of course, in seeing what happened to Ray Franz and Ed Dunlap, Watchtower will go into witchhunt mode and kick out any dissenting leader in the street. I believe had Ray Franz chose to do so, he could've started a competitive schism. But he was a man of integrity and did not want the mantle of leadership and the harm that can bring those under that mantle.

Even if there was an even split in the Governing Body to the breaking point, I wonder how Watchtower would handle it. Eventually one faction would win out and shut and excise the other down.

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2018 Regional (District) Convention Outlines

by AverageJoe1 in

so the official program is out but does anyone have access to the actual outlines for the assembly this year in english and/or spanish?.

maybe the gb are clamping down on their "high-up" leaks within the organisation and the circuit overseers making these available have been kicked or had to no longer leak material for fear of getting themselves discovered by the wt gestapo..

Londo111

Can't wait for the English translations...

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Circuit Overseer Meets with Elders and Ministerial Servants

by accesible in

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¿necesitan los demás bosquejos?.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dvhuodkcahf6efu2xqxfk6o8ambqe5rm.

Londo111

I don't believe they have outlined the criteria "Biblically drunk" anywhere have they?

I don't remember seeing this in the leaked copies of the Flock book.

On the other hand, they've a fine gradient when it comes to porn and what kinds are disfellowshippable and what kinds are not. It shows where the priorities are.

One elder told me that drunkendess was "hard to prove". And I was like, "What?"

It's one of those things that many elders, "Bethel heavies", Governing Body members, and at least one Watchtower President have been guilty of. And yet...some have been disfellowshipped for it. Hayden Covington comes to mind. But the majority seem to avoid any sort of punishment.

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Growing a beard

by Coded Logic in

i've always been currious as to how i would look with a beard so i've finally committed to doing it.

over the next 30 days i'm going to grow out a full chin to ear beard.. .

ps: any suggestions or advice on how to grow a beard would be much appreciated!.

Londo111

You are no longer qualified to carry microphones!