Since this was leaked, I wonder if it means there are a few people awake at Warwick.
And I wonder what else they can leak...
i saw this on jw reddit and thought, okay that will just be one of the protesters videotaping near their security entrance but it's really from inside the hq's.
i doubt the org.
will be happy that this was taped and leaked.https://rutube.ru/video/2dbc8185062524a41ed8c9e2117ca39d/.
Since this was leaked, I wonder if it means there are a few people awake at Warwick.
And I wonder what else they can leak...
i noticed a young brother with a beard being given more privelages within our hall.
when he first grew his beard, he lost his privelages.
but more and more recently he has been helping out a lot more.. the cobe is old school and a stickler for rules, but with the hall becoming more empty these days, and the need for young brothers, he seems to have relaxed on this particular watchtower/man made rule.
As people have said, nothing has changed.
There are exceptions in a few countries. Everywhere else, there are maverick JWs, but it is likely they will not qualify to be a ministerial servant or elder. If they somehow do, it is a very rare thing, like spotting a woman carrying a microphone in a Kingdom Hall. It's happened, but it's like spotting a rare animal outside it's native habitat roaming your neighborhood.
Watchtower has most recently, like it's always done, discouraged beards, all the while seeming to say it is okay.
recently, someone who knows deborah drexler, the current copyright holder of cofc, asked her if she will consider having it published again.
her response was:.
" i will have to ask jesus"!!!!!.
I can't help but think how many knowledgeable people in the exJW community could help her out without asking a penny.
The lack of transparency is disturbing.
i've now seen a couple of references to this and did a little digging before leaving for work.
i saw someone on reddit in july saying that someone on the inside said a change was coming in 2018 with the jw message, and i've now seen two references to this in the past week.
help a former brother out.
This has been in the JW mythos for a long, long time. And that is, during the great tribulation, the “door would close”. Then JWs would cease preaching the good news and preach a message of judgement, basically telling people they were going to die.
There’s a verse in Revelation that talks about hailstones raining down, each one weighing a talent. Watchtower interprets this as the hard hitting message they would preach to people during the tribulation.
Of course, the 2018 change has nothing to do with it. But JWs are always looking at tealeaves in the pages of the Watchtower.
taking a walk down memory lane at those looooonnnnngg, tedious conventions... .
(boy, they weren’t kidding when they spoke about being long-suffering and having endurance!).
but what were some of your convention highlights, or lowlights, from back in the day?.
I liked the cheese danish and vanilla pudding. I did not like Shasta cola at all.
When I was a kid, all that mattered was getting back to the hotel pool.
moscow.
1983.. william plunkert.
diplomat at the us embassy in moscow.. sue pamela carne - american jehovah's witness woman employed as governess to plunkert.
If true, what this person taught was "apostasy". While the Soviet Block was "King of the North", and while perhaps antichrist not not "The Antichrist". And of course, the "King of the North" was supposed to meet its end at Armageddon along with every other nation at the hands of God, not get nuked.
taking a walk down memory lane at those looooonnnnngg, tedious conventions... .
(boy, they weren’t kidding when they spoke about being long-suffering and having endurance!).
but what were some of your convention highlights, or lowlights, from back in the day?.
I always took notes. I'd notebooks and notebooks of notes.
However, usually Sunday afternoon's I'd run out of steam and take few if any. Especially the last talk.
i'm an active elder, cobe, just got home from the meeting where i handled the treasures part and concluded by announcing a friend of mine has been d/f,.....blah blah blah...and over the last year have woken up.
i simply cannot spill my guts to my wife and children as it would be family suicide.
i have zero desire to bash, spread my feelings, or become an "apostate".
It was an interesting read.
I can't imagine being in that spot.
on another thread, undercover suggested "adam and the dinosaurs".. i came up with these:.
green bible dinosaurs.
jezebel and the fornicators.
The Time, Times and Half a Time
this is my first post and hopefully i can get some advice and input.
i have been actively involved with the organization for a little over 10 years now.
i began studying in high school, got baptized and my family fortunately did not.
You are going to lose many people and it is going to hurt.
In a cult, friends are instantly made and instantly lost.