And what about chapter 7: Do not judge.
That was one of the things that I remarked to a JW friend when I was still in. We talk about Daniel and Revelation, but we don't seem to really try to study and obey these basic teachings.
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do jws even read and absorb mathew ch 5 and 6 ?
by sowhatnow ini mean its says right in there not to pray in public, or babble on, how many 10 minuet long babbling prayers have you endured ??.
where in the bible does it tell us anyone prayed for a large group of people publicly, or even in front of the family at their homes?.
it says in vs 14 to be forgiving, how can disfellowshipping someone be forgiving?
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JW's hit with another lawsuit alleging child sexual abuse
by yalbmert99 inhttp://www.christianpost.com/news/jehovahs-witnesses-hit-with-another-lawsuit-alleging-child-sexual-abuse-organization-has-paid-over-13-million-in-damages-130490/.
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Londo111
Thank you for sharing.
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So its the Elders School this Weekend.......
by Slidin Fast inwhat is the focus for this one.
is it "well lads ring the legal department but if anything goes wrong, you are on your own.
the cs deals with all that".
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Londo111
Wow: It's hard to get DFed.
The reality is far, far different.
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So its the Elders School this Weekend.......
by Slidin Fast inwhat is the focus for this one.
is it "well lads ring the legal department but if anything goes wrong, you are on your own.
the cs deals with all that".
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Londo111
Hopefully some of this will be leaked in full.
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JWStruggle post: Bethel Layoffs Reveal a Kingdom without Clothes
by Londo111 inhttp://www.jwstruggle.com/2013/07/bethel-layoffs-reveal-a-kingdom-without-clothes/.
despite everything, i still have a lingering admiration toward those who serve or have served in bethel.
it is not that i believe it is gods organization in any way, shape, or form.
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Londo111
That is the other side of the equation. The judgmental pressure cooker of the Watchtower warps those who have been there a number of years. People went in with good intentions, but many came out lacking love, empathy and understanding. And common sense.
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When Was Jerusalem Destroyed By The Babylonians?
by Smart incan someone explain in easy to understand language what this argument is all about.
i am not that clever.
i am hoping to talk to the elders about this as well as whoever is willing to talk about it on here.
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Londo111
Rattigan350:
It was 587 BC, the 18th year of Nebuchadnezzar. Some parts of the Bible talk about the 19th year, some the 18th year. The confusion comes about because the difference of time systems, for instance, if you count from the accession year, when the king came to power, versus when his regnal year began starting on the next Nissan 1.
For instance, Nebuchadnezzar's accession year was in 605 BC. His father died in August and he ascended the throne shortly thereafter. However, his first regnal year did not begin until March/April 604 BC.
Things might also get muddled since the pre-Exile Jews evidently went from Tishri to Tishri (September/October), while post-Exile Jews adopted the Babylonian convention of Nissan to Nissan.
From Babylonian sources, it is evident that Jerusalem was destroyed in Nebuchadnezzar’s 18th regnal year, which stretched from March/April 587 BC to March/April 586 BC.
For those that insist on 586 BC, I don’t make too much an issue. It’s only a year, unlike the 20 year gap in Watchtower chronology.
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When Was Jerusalem Destroyed By The Babylonians?
by Smart incan someone explain in easy to understand language what this argument is all about.
i am not that clever.
i am hoping to talk to the elders about this as well as whoever is willing to talk about it on here.
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Londo111
http://corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/evolution-of-606-to-607-bce-in.html
A good link I found of the transition from 606 to 607 BC.
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Londo111
Old-school JWs were readers. Of course, what they were reading was nonsense, but it was deep nonsense. It took some time to digest all the material they had to read. These people were more apt to give a courageous defense of their doctrines.
New-school JWs are not readers. Since 2000, the publications have been more fluffy and lite as time goes by. The public Watchtower and Awake are pretty flimsy. Modern JWs cannot defend their beliefs and the go-to strategy is to run.
A picture is worth a thousand words, as the saying goes. A multimedia presentation is more effective. Much of the content of Dub TV is emotional. The music, especially, is designed to tug at heartstrings. It could be that this Dub TV will be effective at keeping hardcore JWs in.
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do other religions change doctrines like the wt society does?
by sowhatnow ini just wondered.
i mean ok, the catholic church seems to make 'adjustments' more or less , by accepting previously held prejudices.
against certain things, like gays, or birth control, or rather tolerate it more, but is that a genuine change of doctrine?.
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Londo111
I’m not sure what JWs would do if the Watchtower stopped making “adjustments”. It is almost expected at a subconscious level.
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do other religions change doctrines like the wt society does?
by sowhatnow ini just wondered.
i mean ok, the catholic church seems to make 'adjustments' more or less , by accepting previously held prejudices.
against certain things, like gays, or birth control, or rather tolerate it more, but is that a genuine change of doctrine?.
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Londo111
In mainline Protestantism, people agree on a few basics, and are free to use their own conscience and reasoning to determine what they will believe and are free to change their minds on something whenever they want. Even if a person disagrees with the basics, I haven’t seen people bat an eyebrow.
For instance, in one church, I’ve seen people who believe in Trinity and those who don’t. Those who believe the Holy Spirit is a person and those who believe Holy Spirit is a “divine energy”. There are those who believe in universal salvation and those who don’t. Those who believe in preterism and those who believe in futurism. Millenniumism and amillenniumism. People are basically free to express themselves. No arguments erupt.
In fact, people can unite without having to agree on everything or to be told what they are supposed to believe. I’ve learned true unity doesn’t mean everyone has to be on the same page. Unity and freedom are not mutually exclusive.