i want as many minds put into this as possible.. there is a new argument among the extreme jw apologists, saying that even the disciples promoted mistakes.
they base themselves on john 21:23. keep in mind, i am not a believer but i want the answer from a believer's standpoint, please.. .
nwt:.
The difference was there was no Governing Body…but say there was, they did not proclaim this teaching as spiritual food. If you did not believe this, you would not get shunned.
The Watchtower likes to portray failed predictions and teaching as the fault of Jehovah’s Witnesses, but nobody blames the “channel”, the Watchtower, or the Governing Body or Watchtower president of the time. It is a top down organization…they take the credit up top, and put the blame on the bottom.
could someone do me a favor and post the picture on page 9 on the above mentioned watchtower.. i'll point it out, very surprised no one else has picked up on this creepy image..
if you had to pinpoint the time or experience that finally made you open your eyes, what would it be?.
i think for me it was the time i saw my dad shun his brother who he had not seen in decades just because he was a da'ed jw.
i thought to my self "no way jesus would do that.
The October/November 2011 articles on 607. Not only did I find out the Watchtower was mistaken, but the way they quoted and references scholars and their works was entirely dishonest.
No 607->no 1914->no 1919->the entire theology is wrong and they’ve no divine appointment.
Of course, the dishonesty was a more serious issue and a deeper rabbit hole than merely a mistaken theology.
thought this had to be made.
have you noticed that adding 607 b.c.e roman/gregorian years to 2520 jewish biblical/prophetic years to get 1914 roman/gregorian years c.e is like adding 2 feet + 3 meters= 5 meters?.
the insights volume ii under heading year, mentions that a bible or prophetic year is reckoned to have 360 days.
many other publications indicate that a prophetic year is 360 days long.
And evidently there did not seem to be a 360 day lunar year...
what would happen if i would write a physical letter to, for example, the branch office.
and ask questions about scandals like the ngo thing and other stuff?
or ask questions about wtbs economy, or ask for a annual report, which is something i would really like to read.
What would happen is that the Society would write the body of elders, who would corral you into a backroom and start an investigation.
All this has happened before...
lately television has really bored me so i have turned to youtube on the apple tv.. man, this show is hilarious.
i knew it was funny when it was on the air but it seems to get better with time.
or maybe i am getting older and beginning to see a lot of hank hill in myself.. any fans ??
i am initially thinking of the major religious institutions of christianity , catholic ,many branches , church of england , and the major protestant religions , too numerous to mention here.. after all their is 40,000 plus christian religions in the world today ?so obviously j.w.`s are not the only false religion .. so my real question is really , to do with the mainstream christian religions , why are`nt they more aggressive in their condemnation of the jehovah witness religion for their obvious failings ,flip backs ,contradictions ,prophecy`s that never eventuated , end of the world predictions ,re-inventing their past history , even distancing themselves from their past history , and their founding members , such as c.t.russell and j.f.rutherford whose policies they now reject... they need to get on board and bleed it for all it`s worth .. smiddy .
Every church I've attended after leaving, I've never heard anything negative spoken about any group, much less JWs. There seems a conscious effort to be tolerant and respectful of other denominations and religions. It is quite different than services at the Kingdom Hall, which is tantamount to hate speech in regard "Christendom" or other religions.
Many churchgoers consider JWs "nice people", not realizing the danger the organization poses. Nor do people seem to want to know.
i just dont get it.
the gb moved to patterson and are conducting business from there, right?
they are not printing as much literature as they once were and they are still operating walkill for the magazines...er a ....pamphlets.
What kind of HQ did Jesus have?
"Foxes have dens and birds have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head."--Matthew 8:20
1) the general "wicked generation" has always members that live past 115 years, so without the ridicoulous overlap idea, it would have taken wt writers to 2030 for the start of pardise.. 2) the "all things take place" prophecy recorded in math 23-25 include the entering of the " goats into everlasting cutting off=armageddon; the sheep into everlasting life= paradise".
therefore: the generation of wt anointed overlappers dying before armageddon to be raptured, is not what jesus said.
he said the generation will not pass, will survive, be alive , witness the entering into paradise.
