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  12/31/2018 World-wide action “Escape from the watchtower" #escapefromthewatchtower

  by AlexPancho in

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  good afternoon!

  we are ex jehovah's witnesses.. in this video, we begin the world-wide action.

  we call it action “escape from the watchtower”.. slavery in the united states was abolished on december 18, 1865. the fortress law in russia was abolished(аболиш) on february 19, 1861.. but jehovah's witnesses are still in captivity, in fear that they or their loved ones will ban communication through a procedure known as disfellowship.. we offer three easy steps to release:.

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  I agree with Fall Guy. The first thing I decided once I left was to stop using Watchtower terminology and never to play by their rules. To play by their rules is to acknowledge their authority.
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  Getting Remarried after a spouses death & then they are resurrected after Armageddon ?

  by LOLS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi guys .

  i was wondering about the above , if a jw is allowed to remarry if a spouse has died, then what happens when they are resurrected at armageddon, do u land up with two wives/husbands ,,,,,,, makes no sense to me & can the jw's be so dumb not to think about this or have i got it wrong ?

  and i will not be asking my uber jw husband , don't have the energy.. thanks.

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  Matt. 23:30 states the dead neither marry or are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. Whatever "like angels" means, one thing is clear - JWs teach death of one spouse ends the marriage and, when resurrected, the deceased spouse will never marry again.

  I had a JW buddy who thought he could hold out until after Armageddon because he wanted to marry the resurrected Marilyn Monroe. I hated to burst his bubble.
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  Simple Question:Why Won’t JWs Just Report Child Abuse As The Law Requires?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i just don’t get it.

  it would make their life so much easier!.

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  If you are ask to why the leadership (aka "Governing Body") of Jehovah's Witnesses does not freely advocate the report of child abuse to law enforcement, the reason is money. Where there is criminal litigation there is often civil litigation, especially if there is money to be had. Which is ironic as if the Watchtower policy had started with "Immediately notify local law enforcement and give them your full support" I am sure it would lessen the liability.

  As far as rank and file Witnesses go - the organization is everything and does all the decision making. Literally - rank and file members live and die at the words of the organization. To them obedience to the organization equals salvation from Jehovah. To take action with out the expressed approval of the local body of elders is a deep and serious sin in their eyes.

  This is why the comparison to child sacrifice to Muloch is no different then the scores of children sacrificed to the Watchtower.

  This mindset goes beyond sex crimes involving child victims. It extends clear out to just about any criminal offense committed by any congregation member. Sure, the local body of elders will disfellowship the criminal offender, but in the end its all about maintaining the "reputation of the organization." It is never about protecting the public or pursuing justice. They excuse themselves by quoting Romans 12:19, but that has to deal with vengeance. Although those two things are similar, they are not one and the same.
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  What Are The Differences Between JWs Born In and Converted?

  by minimus in

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  i tend to think that many jws who joined the religion in their later years feel foolish or are embarrassed by their decision to become one of jehovah’s witnesses.

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  i’m not embarrassed by my years “in the truth “ because i was raised from infancy to believe everything was god’s word and who are we to question jehovah and his organization?

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  It's far easier for a converted person to leave because their pre-cult support system never left them. My wife converted in her late 20s. She was only in for about 2 years when we met. Prior to becoming a Witness nearly her entire support system family and relatives, none of which liked her becoming a Witness, but went along with it.

  I was born in. My parents were never close to their family when I grew up. In my high school years and early adult life I had cultivated friendships with non-Witnesses and Witnesses who were inactive. The majority of my support group were Witnesses.

  For my wife it was as nothing changed other than she went back to celebrating holidays with family and relatives.

  For me the only thing that helped was I had my closest friends who all had left the organization ahead of me and an ever growing number of friends I met through my line of work.
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  Live 'as though' God is true and goodness is real? Why? Why not?

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  in the long run, goodness can be as real as we care to live it.

  and if we live 'as though' god were as real as we once believed--how can we go wrong?let us think about this...what would happen if we were given a large amount of cash and we spent it on gifts for our loved ones but-- a knock at the door and the police are here!

  that cash was counterfeit and those gifts must be confiscated...what then?good intentions are only that--intentions-- if there is no "there" there.when we were each others' brothers and sisters our love was real but the currency was counterfeit.

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  If "goodness" is real then "evil" must also be real. What is evil?

  "What is evil?" was the question a college professor of philosophy asked his students day one of class. The professor started with the student sitting in the front row of the lecture hall.

  "War," she answered.

  "Wrong" replied the professor.

  The professor asked the second student, "What is evil?"

  "Violence," the second student answered.

  "Wrong," replied the professor.

  The professor continued asking the same question of each student. He went student by student, row by row, asking them all the same question and each answer given by students was met with the same reply - "Wrong!" That was until he got about 25 students into the process and he called on my buddy.

  "What is evil?" asked the professor of my friend.

  My friend knew that this question was coming and truly racked his brain coming up with what he thought was a legitimate answer. Then he replied.

  "Cancer."

  The professor paused and pondered on his his answer for several uncomfortable seconds.

  "Yes," replied the professor who then promptly returned to the lectern and began his first lecture to the class.

  I share this story to share an opinion - concepts of "good" and "evil" are man-made and subjective. Something that is classified as "good" can later be re-branded to "evil" over a period of time and vice versa. That is not to say there are not things that are "good" and will always be seen that way or that some things are not truly "evil'.

  So what is the alternative?

  One universal truth is that for every action there is a reaction. All actions have consequences. The word "consequences" has been given a negative connotation. In reality consequences can be positive or more accurate, consequences are just the results of what we do or fail to do.

  So the alternative is to ask ourselves this question - "What can I live with?"
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  1975—Were You Affected By What 1975 Was Supposed to Bring?

  by minimus in

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  for years , we were told to wait until 1975!.

  the end was coming and we better be ready—or else!.

  were you around during this “momentous “ time??

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  I was in diapers back in 1975. I have a close friend who turned 5 in 1975. His father was an elder and held the position that is now referred to as Coordinator of the Body of Elders. My friend says he remember going on in the ministry with his dad. He remembers his dad would place every book and magazine in his service bag every time they went out.

  Then 1976 passed. He recalls the very next December his dad putting up a Christmas tree in the house. His dad leaving the organization led to his father being disfellowshipped and the divorce of his parents.

  Over the years he losely associated with the Witnesses as he was raised by his mother and grandmother after the divorce. He never got baptized. He tried. He had married a Witness and they moved back to his home congregation. The body of elders told him they would never let him get baptized.

  That was the end of Witness life for him.
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  Satan gives jehovahs people a break

  by nowwhat? in

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  south korea now allows conscientious objectors from military obligation.

  since the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.

  a tip of the hat to satan for allowing jahs people freedom to worship!

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  The above is a true statement. It has to be. Everything in this system of things is under Satan's control...ecxept the government. Romans 13 says the government is comprised of God's ministers.

  Wait a minute. Isn't that a contradiction?
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  Asylum Caravan

  by dubstepped in

  1. social
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  alright, so what is the deal with the thousands coming to the states right at election time seeking asylum?

  i'm not up on this, usually try not to be, but how can this not be manipulative?

  it's either manipulative in the size of the group and pressure that creates, or in where it started or who started this, etc.

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  After wading through 7 pages of this thread, please forgive me if I missed someone already commenting on the following -

  Thousands of citizens from Honduras and Guatemala have been organized to make a trek from their nation to the U.S. southern border with the hope of entering as well as staying. We have all sort of theories being thrown around, fueled by mass media and talking head spin. They are coming none the less.

  The issue I find interesting is the concept of this group and predecessors coming under the guise of "asylum seekers" or "refugees". There's a problem with both claims.

  By international law, a person may seek asylum from another nation for various reasons. Often it is because their lives are in direct danger from their homeland's government. The issue is that the asylum seeker must seek asylum from the first nation they enter. The asylum seeker does not get to pick and choose where to seek asylum. The asylum seekers does not get to flee home, cross two sovereign nations, and then seek asylum in a third nation.

  The next issue is to consider this group or previous groups as "refugees". There are strict terms defining what causes a person to be considered a refugee. Those reasons would not include poverty or violent criminal gangs. Also, accepting someone into your nation under a refugee status is only for a limited time with the intent of the refugee to return to their homeland.

  I believe the real driving force behind this mass of persons intending on illegally immigrating into the U.S. is rather simple - money. Whenever poverty borders prosperity this is what you get. Unlike over a 100 years ago when people crossed the oceans on ships to enter Ellis and Angel Island, there is not intent on these people to assimilate and become Americans. Unlike that same time, there is no limit to the number of Americans willing to provide substandard wage employment in menial jobs (under the table) to them.

  The worst prisons are the ones without bars. Poverty is probably the worst prison. It makes people desperate and there is no shortage of people willing to take advantage of that.

  I have been saying for years that the U.S. has deployed its armed forces in the wrong places. It's quite obvious that Honduras, Guatemala, and Mexico's governments have no intention of fixing their problems. A few Marine Battalions should be able to round up all the drug cartels and MS-13 members.
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  It's Halloween! join Chad and Jess as they enjoy their first party in Dubtown

  by Kevin McFree in

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  https://youtu.be/-yp3twzxfrw.

  chad and jess start on a forbidden journey in dubtown, halloween parties, worldly friends and dating!https://youtu.be/-yp3twzxfrw.

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  "Good job on mics."

  "Thanks. It's harder than it looks."

  This series is pure genius!
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  A Cult Tactic: Removing Guilt By Dehumanising Others

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the real world, very few parents would disown their own children simply because they read a magazine that told them to do it.

  very few people would forever completely ignore their own parents because an elder got up on a platform one day and announced that they no longer follow the same religion as you.. in the real world it just doesn't happen.

  and yet, for 8 million jehovah's witnesses it's very a normal part of their world to treat "other people" differently than they'd treat each other.

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  This is so very true. Often during times of war, one nation will come up with a derogatory name for the other nation's troops. This dehumanization can make it easier for soldiers to kill their enemy.

  What I find ironic about Jehovah's Witnesses is that back in the 1990s there was a Watchtower Study Article dealing with this. The article commented how the Pharisees of Jesus time referred to their fellow Israelite as "People of the Earth" which followed the same connotation as "pagan" or "heathen". These were slurs aimed at people who were thought of as uneducated and the last to convert to the state religion.

  The point the article made was that Witnesses should not refer to non-Witnesses with derogatory terms as "worldly". The problem with this, even though they were correct, if that using the slur "worldly" is so ingrained in Witness culture it never really caught on. As someone pointed out in another thread, one of the reasons it is so hard for Witnesses to leave is because the whole concept of being a Witness is that it makes you better than all other people. No matter a person's wealth, power, or stature in society - being one of Jehovah's Witnesses automatically makes you better.