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Who is "The" Creator ? Jehovah or Jesus ?

by smiddy3 in

is jehovah the creator ?.

apparently jehovah created the "word" or "logos" ( jesus).

and he never created anything else according to bible scripture.. however the first born of creation the logos /jesus was used to create everything else in the material world.. so then isn`t jesus also a creator ?.

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My father taught us Jehovah created Jesus. From there Jesus created everything with Jehovah. "Let us make..."

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Interesting conversation with JW friend

by Jules Saturn in

i was withh a friend of mine who is a jw still and for whatever reason we started talking the bible.

i asked him about lazarus and how is that when he died he paid the price of sin, but then jesus resurrected him.

and i asked him "where is lazarus today?

truth_b_known

"And just as it is reserved for men to die once for all time, but after this to receive a judgment" - Hebrews 9:27 NWT

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Interesting conversation with JW friend

by Jules Saturn in

i was withh a friend of mine who is a jw still and for whatever reason we started talking the bible.

i asked him about lazarus and how is that when he died he paid the price of sin, but then jesus resurrected him.

and i asked him "where is lazarus today?

truth_b_known

You are correct. Lazarus paid the bill in full. He should have lived forever.

Jehovah's Witnesses can try to crawfish out of that, but they can't and don't let them.

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Just woke up turn TV on to hear yet another nut case with a gun.

by Still Totally ADD in

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first they said 20 dead with 100 injured.

now i just heard 50 dead and 200 injured.

whatever it is it just another nut case who was able to get a high power gun to kill people.

truth_b_known

The .22 caliber has been used by men to take more human lives than any "high-powered" ammunition. Also, whatever ammunition used by this old man in Las Vegas was assuredly not "high-powered".

The term "assault rifle" was coined by the media, not by the firearms industry.

Pol Pot Murdered over 2,000,000 people by the age of 55 in the name of Communism. No one bats an eye or calls for the outlawing of Communism because we've never tried "Democratic Socialism". I'm pretty sure he started by disarming the good citizens of Cambodia. They all do that. Stalin. Mao Zedong. Pot. Castro.

The number one tool used for mass murder in the history of the world - fire. Why do civilians need access to fire?

If someone is intent on committing Murder, the only thing stopping them is killing that person first. There is no such thing as "safe".

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The boys in Pennsylvania- The real power behind Watchtower

by UnshackleTheChains in

i am quite interested in something mike and kim said in their video when talking about why their you tube videos are being taken down.

in their video below, at around 35 seconds.

mike say's that he has being trying to tell people that the boys in pennsylvania are the real power behind watchtower - not the governing body?.

truth_b_known

1989 is when I remember seeing the green Watchtower letterhead with the Pennsylvania address. I want to say it was in the early to mid-1990s when they went to the "Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses". It was about the same time that the organization instructed everyone to stop using the phrase "The Society"(short for Watchtower Bible and Tract Society).

For example - "The Society says true Christians should..."

This was also about the time of the Overlapping Generations.

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I'm so confused, help?

by Ponyo in

i want to share my story.

(might be a tad long).

i have no idea where i stand anymore regarding being a jw and where i stand in my marriage.. im 28 years old and the years are certainly ticking by.

truth_b_known

Don't put the cart before the horse.

Deal with you religious beliefs first. Know the truth and the truth will set you free. Know the Truth and you will a slave to a publishing corporation that uses high control tactics to keep you in.

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The boys in Pennsylvania- The real power behind Watchtower

by UnshackleTheChains in

i am quite interested in something mike and kim said in their video when talking about why their you tube videos are being taken down.

in their video below, at around 35 seconds.

mike say's that he has being trying to tell people that the boys in pennsylvania are the real power behind watchtower - not the governing body?.

truth_b_known

When I was 15 I remember the Presiding Overseer (COBE) being one of the 3 elders who went over the baptism questions with me. This was conducted at his house in his study. I remember him showing me two letters -

The first was on the traditional letterhead having the Watchtower official logo in that tan/gold color with the address in Brooklyn, NY. I had seen them many times, especially when I was younger than that. My father had been a Presiding Overseer himself and I would see these letters in his home office.

The second was similar. The logo was in green and the address in Pennsylvania. I had never seen this before.

The Presiding Overseer told me that the second one if a secondary corporation in charge of the legal department for the WB&TS.

Eventually they wanted to distance themselves from the idea that a corporation was in charge of God's earthly organization and started sending letters from "The Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses."

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JW's are S.O.B's

by James Mixon in

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i didn't say it, it was the president....

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No national/universal healthcare? Socialist medical care is substandard at best, but the real reason the United States cannot afford it is because we spend that money on military spending. The same military spending that protects all the European countries that don't spend their tax dollars on their military because, hey, the good ol' US of A will come to our rescue and do all our fighting for us.

Rights to bear arms and defend one's self and those who are unable to defend themselves? You mean the universal natural right to defend your life? After all, if only the military (citizen soldiers) and the police (citizen public servants) have access to firearms it will 100% assure that citizens will never be harmed by a firearm...with the exception to places like Nazi Germany, North Korea, Communist Cuba, etc.

Infamously racist police force? You mean the reason the players of the Notorious Felon League are protesting during the national anthem? You didn't know? The reason this they are protesting is because the are pushing the infamously false narrative that police officers in the United States are killing unarmed black men in the streets "just because". The "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" narrative that was found to be the biggest lie perpetuated in the United States during and proceeding its inception. Don't ever let facts supersede feelings!

You see, the protest is pushing for social justice change. We are all just victims and no one is responsible for their own actions. That's why these NFL players don't want criminals sitting in jail awaiting their trial. They certainly don't want criminals who just flat out won't be held accountable having forced used against them by the police when they resist arrest.

Here's the biggest issue of all (not that any of this really matters) - Why would we want out national anthem played at the beginning of a sporting event? Imagine if you were sitting in a movie theater waiting for the movie to start and, when it does, being asked to stand for the singing of the national anthem. This practice should be reserved for events that actually having meaning and deserve the pomp and circumstance that deserve it.

So, here is a solution - Stop. Just stop treating something that deserves honor being done at events that do not. Then lets move forward.

The last great thing our species accomplished was done on July 20th, 1969. 48 years ago! 48 years ago a man walked on the moon.

No matter how many statutes we take down or how many knees we take on the field where men get paid millions to play a children's game, none of it matters more than moving ahead as a species.

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It's Alright to Give Up

by truth_b_known in

i recently watched this john cedars video and it really moved me.

i just wanted to share it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp2q0yiy6eq&t=479s.

truth_b_known

I recently watched this John Cedars video and it really moved me. I just wanted to share it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp2Q0YIy6eQ&t=479s

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Question for SBF

by Fisherman in

slimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.

can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?

- this thread is your if you want it..

truth_b_known

I once heard a phrase that I think is applicable to this case -

"It's an exercise in keeping the zombie walking."

Growing up in the 80's, Bethel was this magical, Disney-esque place that JW parents encouraged their children to go to. It is the world-wide headquarters of their organization. The space mountain of Bethel was their printing operations. As Bethel service was the JW equivalent of military service, working on the printing presses was like being Marine Corps Infantry (no offense, Marines. It was just that way).

In the 90's I entered into adulthood. I had an elder who is a former Bethelite. Every sentence that came out of his mouth started with "Back when I was in Bethel..." Bethel was the Vatican for JWs.

Then things started to change. No more hardbound publications. Only paperback. Only one issue of Awake! released per month. Then only one issue of the Watchtower was released per month (THE Zion's Watchtower reduced by 50% per year). Then there was the public and congregation versions of the Watchtower with only the latter having the Watchtower Study articles.

Jump forward about 20 years. Nearly all printing has ceased and JWs are required to download their own personal copies. With that being the case, why have a Bethel? Why continue referring to your followers as "Kingdom PUBLISHERS of the Good News" when you are no longer pushing your printing materials?

I see Bethel service ending all together in a few years. The headquarters in Warwick will only be the Governing Body and their personal staff. The only activity going on will be writing, filming talks, and administration. For a generous donation you and your family can visit the JW Vatican and kiss the 7 Popes' rings.

I really think a clock has started and when it hits 0:00 this whole house of cards will cease to exist.

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