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  4 july etc..

  by zeb in

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  thou, too, sail on, o ship of state!

  sail on, o union, strong and great!

  humanity with all its fears, .

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  zeb

  Thou, too, sail on, O Ship of State!
  

  Sail on, O Union, strong and great!
  

  Humanity with all its fears,
  

  With all the hopes of future years,
  

  Is hanging breathless on thy fate!
  

  We know what Master laid thy keel,
  

  What Workmen wrought thy ribs of steel,
  

  Who made each mast, and sail, and rope,
  

  What anvils rang, what hammers beat,
  

  In what a forge and what a heat
  

  Were shaped the anchors of thy hope!
  

  Fear not each sudden sound and shock,
  

  'T is of the wave and not the rock;
  

  'T is but the flapping of the sail,
  

  And not a rent made by the gale!
  

  In spite of rock and tempest's roar,
  

  In spite of false lights on the shore,
  

  Sail on, nor fear to breast the sea!
  

  Our hearts, our hopes, are all with thee,
  

  Our hearts, our hopes, our prayers, our tears,
  

  Our faith triumphant o'er our fears,
  

  Are all with thee, — are all with thee!..........Longfellow.

  
  Best wishes to all the American posters here.
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  Crazy humour.

  by zeb in

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  anyone recall the bbc-radio "goon show"?

  anyone at all?.

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  zeb

  It seems today that comedians cant start up without profanity and the female comedians are by far the worse.

  even a fairly plain show called Countdown' from the uk has this..
  
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  You Know You're in the Wrong Religion When....

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  just thought a review the following material many have contributed to might be helpful .

  you know you are in the wrong religion:1. when the all important question is not: "do you believe in the lord jesus christ?"....but....

  "do you believe in the "faithful and discreet slave" appointed in 1919?"2.

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  • Your kids do well at school but dont go further as they must get a shit job that pays very poorly and pioneer.
  • when there is a inquiry into the religion but the members are told not to view any of it.
  • when the inquiry is labelled 'apostate lies' but the accuser doesnt name the inquiry as such.
  • when the principals of the org are too busy to attend the inquiry and tell it you have no power to make us.
    
  • when every damn thing is pagan except white bridal dresses, wedding rings and mens neck ties.
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  Crazy humour.

  by zeb in

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  anyone recall the bbc-radio "goon show"?

  anyone at all?.

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  zeb

  Anyone recall the BBC-radio "Goon Show"? anyone at all?
  
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  Arrogance..

  by zeb in

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  "an arrogant person considers himself perfect.

  this is the chief harm of arrogance.

  it interferes with a person's main task in life - becoming a better person.

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  "An arrogant person considers himself perfect. This is the chief harm of arrogance. It interferes with a person's main task in life - becoming a better person."
  
  LEO TOLSTOY

  (from Epoch news)
  
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  Why do CO's refuse to strip Elders of their position?

  by Tenacious in

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  in several congregations i attended many elders were downright evil and flat out drunk with power.. many times i personally knew of things done by them that would have been a disfellowshipping offense had they not been elders.

  and even though many times these issues and spiritual atrocities were reported to the co's and hq they would many times (if not all the time), get off with a mere slap on the wrist or a forced apology.. why do you believe elders are so protected?.

  my theory is the authority integrity within the congregation.

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  what will be the wt/gb action against those who were named to the CARC/ British Commission of Inquiry/ The Canadian class action and the Conti case and the $34,000,000 pay out case earlier this year in the US. ?
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  Anyone drop out of high school or not focus on grades becuase the end was near

  by rockemsockem in

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  i dropped out with 3 months left to go of the 12th grade.

  my uncle offed me a job and the end was only a few years away.

  my mother even though she was dyed in the wool at the time said she would only go along with it if i took a correspondence course out of american correspondence school out of chicago.

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  re home schooling or leaving school.

  It became apparent that some young ones were doing the bs to their naive parents that school was "so immoral" and quote various other wt propaganda that they had to leave ..........and get a job. The parents didnt realize in their wt wally world that the work place is filled with ordinary people too some of who are grossly immoral the majority are not. The real reason for their kids wanting to leave was to get an income and buy all the bling it would buy. Proven by the fashions that began to turn up to kh and conventions.
  
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  Anyone drop out of high school or not focus on grades becuase the end was near

  by rockemsockem in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i dropped out with 3 months left to go of the 12th grade.

  my uncle offed me a job and the end was only a few years away.

  my mother even though she was dyed in the wool at the time said she would only go along with it if i took a correspondence course out of american correspondence school out of chicago.

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  • this denouncing of education by the wt is a major reason i finally left.
  • There was a water-shed moment when the local high school was having graduation and this clashed with mid week meeting and one of the elders was distressed that so many were not present.

  and a quote from another poster
  

  • The congregation servant used this article to persuade my dad not to attend college back in the summer of 1969, and I know he wasn’t the only one. Looking back, those two paragraphs were filled with false and misleading statements. No wonder the 1969 Awake isn’t included in the Watchtower Library DVD-ROM!

    The passage of time has proven nearly every sentence in that two-paragraph quote wrong. Consider it, sentence by sentence:

    If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things.

    The 18-year-olds who read this article in 1969 are now 67 years old. They indeed are growing old in this system.

    Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years.

    Shaky evidence, to say the least. Would you consider 49 years to be “a few”?

    Of the generation that observed the beginning of the “last days” in 1914, Jesus foretold: “This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.” – Matt. 24:34.
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  Kids being disfellowshipped

  by Nikki collins in

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  so some ex-jws and i were at dinner last night talking about how some of the ones baptized this year were so young.

  a few under the age of 10!!

  can you imagine if a kid got dfd at that age.... would the congregation shun them?

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  shunning a child? That is child abuse..

  I recall seeing a little girl baptized and she was about nine..
  
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  Withholding My Information!

  by The Fall Guy in

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  over the past few days i have twice visited screwfix - a uk nationwide company which sells tools & fixings.. on my first visit, i informed the store assistant of the item i required.

  she immediately said, "post-code?".

  i informed her that it was a cash sale and there was no need to give information.

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  zeb

  If they insist on your mob number give them an old one that doesnt work.