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  What would happen to the Watchtower Org. if the recent UFO sightings were actually aliens ready to take over Earth

  by pistolpete in

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  the past two weeks several ufo sightings.

  navy and pentagon confirm sightings.

  us military is worried because the technology being used to drive these air vehicles are showing no signs of any sort of jet fuel.

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  The implications being that humans were created by other mortal beings in the Universe with no purpose in mind.
  

  Well then who created those “other mortal beings?”
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  The absolute insanity that religion breeds

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  however good certain religious principles may or may not be, there seems to be complete insanity that only religion breeds.. a buddhist monk in thailand has apparently chopped off his own head to give himself 'good luck' in the afterlife.. .

  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9488127/buddhist-monk-chops-head-guillotine-buddha.html.

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  All religions are either earning rewards in the next life though good deeds/refraining from evil (i.e. JWs), or earning rewards now (i.e. Joel Osteen’s false prosperity gospel).

  Except real Christianity, which has nothing to do with your own works but everything to do with what Jesus has done, where salvation is a free gift that cannot be earned.
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  Do You Think White People Are Being Discriminated Against?

  by minimus in

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  some call it reverse discrimination.

  whatever you want to refer to as, in your opinion, are white people being unfairly picked on?

  it seems acceptable that if you are white you are viewed with disdain.

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  The libs will call you “way-cist” just for making this thread.

  The University of California has declared this statement racist: “There is only one race - the human race.”

  I found this in Dennis Prager’s “Questions to determine if a friend or relative is a liberal or a leftist.” It’s a really good set of questions and puts things into perspective: https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/03/02/dennis-prager-questions-to-determine-whether-a-friend-or-relative-is-a-liberal-or-a-leftist-1037116/
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  Differences between Christians and Jehovah’s Witnesses

  by Badfish in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  christians are saved by grace alone though faith alone in christ alone to the glory of god alone.. jws are “saved” by their faith in the men in brooklyn, ny through their works (number of hours spent in field service, record of meeting attendance, and moral excellence or law-keeping (not breaking the long list of rules made by those men in brooklyn).. christians believe that jesus is capable of paying for the sins of mankind because he is god manifest in the flesh.

  christians believe that the temple of jesus’ body was torn down and raised again on the third day, thus fulfilling the scriptures.. jws, on the other hand, believe that jesus is the created being, michael the archangel, manifest in the flesh, and that although he became a man and underwent physical death, he was not physically raised from the dead.. christians read jesus’ words: “truly, truly, i say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.“ therefore, christians partake in communion.. jws, on the other hand, have a yearly ritual ceremony in which they publicly reject communion.

  they make a public spectacle of refusing the new covenant.. christians believe that salvation is monergistic - that god works through the holy spirit to bring about the salvation of an individual through spiritual regeneration, regardless of the individual's cooperation.

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  Badfish

  Jerryh11 hours ago
  

  Badfish they apparently think God is subject to space time.

  So do JWs believe the pre-incarnate Jesus was outside time and space?

  *** Watchtower 1981 2/15 p. 6 How Real Is God to You? ***

  Actually, by teaching that God is omnipresent Christendom has confused matters and made it more difficult for God to be real to his worshipers. How could God be present everywhere at the same time? God is a spirit Person, which means that he does not have a material body, but a spiritual one. A spirit has a body? Yes, for we read, “If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual one.” (1 Cor. 15:44; John 4:24) God being an individual, a Person with a spirit body, has a place where he resides, and so he could not be at any other place at the same time.

  Wow! I knew they had a low view of God, but I didn’t know it was that low! Thanks for the information.

  The funny thing is that the verse they quoted is not speaking about God, it’s speaking about the resurrection. If they actually did a full exegesis of 1 Corinthians 15 for the reader instead of pulling one little line out of context, they would have to completely change their teachings about the resurrection.
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  Differences between Christians and Jehovah’s Witnesses

  by Badfish in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  christians are saved by grace alone though faith alone in christ alone to the glory of god alone.. jws are “saved” by their faith in the men in brooklyn, ny through their works (number of hours spent in field service, record of meeting attendance, and moral excellence or law-keeping (not breaking the long list of rules made by those men in brooklyn).. christians believe that jesus is capable of paying for the sins of mankind because he is god manifest in the flesh.

  christians believe that the temple of jesus’ body was torn down and raised again on the third day, thus fulfilling the scriptures.. jws, on the other hand, believe that jesus is the created being, michael the archangel, manifest in the flesh, and that although he became a man and underwent physical death, he was not physically raised from the dead.. christians read jesus’ words: “truly, truly, i say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.“ therefore, christians partake in communion.. jws, on the other hand, have a yearly ritual ceremony in which they publicly reject communion.

  they make a public spectacle of refusing the new covenant.. christians believe that salvation is monergistic - that god works through the holy spirit to bring about the salvation of an individual through spiritual regeneration, regardless of the individual's cooperation.

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  Food for thought:

  1. God created time and space when the universe came into being;
  2. JWs admit that the universe was created through the pre-incarnate Jesus;

  So do JWs believe the pre-incarnate Jesus was outside time and space? If so, he is eternal. In order to argue against this, they need to answer the question: When was he created, if he himself was not bound by time and space? (If they are intellectually honest, the answer will be “he has existed from eternity past.”)

  If JWs argue that the pre-incarnate Jesus was bound by time and space, then how was it created through him? How could he be bound by his own creation? This is a contradiction, because a created being bound by time and space cannot create time and space. Yet many JWs say they believe the Big Bang Theory - that it was the creation of the universe by God - and that time and space begin at the Big Bang. So where was Jesus? Did he come before or after the Big Bang?

  To the contrary of what JWs teach, Hebrews chapter 1 says this about Jesus:

  “You, Lord, laid the foundation of the earth in the beginning,

  and the heavens are the work of your hands;

  they will perish, but you remain;

  they will all wear out like a garment, like a robe you will roll them up,

  like a garment they will be changed.

  But you are the same, and your years will have no end.”

  (Hebrews 1:10-12)
  
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  Differences between Christians and Jehovah’s Witnesses

  by Badfish in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  christians are saved by grace alone though faith alone in christ alone to the glory of god alone.. jws are “saved” by their faith in the men in brooklyn, ny through their works (number of hours spent in field service, record of meeting attendance, and moral excellence or law-keeping (not breaking the long list of rules made by those men in brooklyn).. christians believe that jesus is capable of paying for the sins of mankind because he is god manifest in the flesh.

  christians believe that the temple of jesus’ body was torn down and raised again on the third day, thus fulfilling the scriptures.. jws, on the other hand, believe that jesus is the created being, michael the archangel, manifest in the flesh, and that although he became a man and underwent physical death, he was not physically raised from the dead.. christians read jesus’ words: “truly, truly, i say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.“ therefore, christians partake in communion.. jws, on the other hand, have a yearly ritual ceremony in which they publicly reject communion.

  they make a public spectacle of refusing the new covenant.. christians believe that salvation is monergistic - that god works through the holy spirit to bring about the salvation of an individual through spiritual regeneration, regardless of the individual's cooperation.

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  Christians are saved by grace alone though faith alone in Christ alone to the glory of God alone.

  JWs are “saved” by their faith in the men in Brooklyn, NY through their works (number of hours spent in field service, record of meeting attendance, and moral excellence or law-keeping (not breaking the long list of rules made by those men in Brooklyn).

  Christians believe that Jesus is capable of paying for the sins of mankind because he is God manifest in the flesh. Christians believe that the temple of Jesus’ body was torn down and raised again on the third day, thus fulfilling the Scriptures.

  JWs, on the other hand, believe that Jesus is the created being, Michael the Archangel, manifest in the flesh, and that although he became a man and underwent physical death, he was not physically raised from the dead.

  Christians read Jesus’ words: “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.“ Therefore, Christians partake in communion.

  JWs, on the other hand, have a yearly ritual ceremony in which they publicly reject communion. They make a public spectacle of refusing the New Covenant.

  Christians believe that salvation is monergistic - that God works through the Holy Spirit to bring about the salvation of an individual through spiritual regeneration, regardless of the individual's cooperation. It is a free gift that cannot be earned through good works or by refraining from sinning, or anything else that originates from one’s self. Salvation begins and ends with God alone - from God, through God and for God alone.

  JWs believe that salvation is synergistic - that salvation is achieved through a combination of human will and divine “undeserved kindness” (I would even argue that JWs lean more toward human will than a number of other synergistic faiths). JWs believe that a person must first clean themselves up and make themselves pleasing to God first before he will accept them. Then they must maintain their own salvation to the very last day, and every time they slip up, they lose their salvation and must clean themselves up again in order to earn back their salvation.

  These are just a few differences between Christians and Jehovah’s Witnesses. Can you think of some other major theological differences?

  Note: I’m talking about Protestant Christians here.
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  YOU are the Proof God exists!

  by MuchCloserLook in

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  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/users/5147371178557440/the-Question
  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Mistaken Ideas About What The Bible Teaches

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  let's add to the following list.

  jws are mistaken when they believe the bible teaches:.

  1. that their leaders somehow represent the faithful and wise servant.

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  That Jesus is a creature and not God in the flesh.

  That the Holy Spirit is an “impersonal active force” and not a person.

  That salvation is by works (cleaning one’s self up so you can become a Jehovah’s Witness, making sure you put in enough field service hours, meeting attendance, mustering up the willpower to keep yourself morally pure, etc.) - and NOT by grace (alone) through faith (alone) in Christ (alone).
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  "We're In The Last Days Of The Last Days!"... So Say's Old Rubberface

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  have you seen this on jworg?.

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/global/coronavirus-report/.

  2 minutes in everyone's favourite clow, stephen lett, tells us all that this coronavirus means we're in the last days of the last days.. cool.

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  Don’t they know they could sound a lot more convincing if those guys that the goofy guy with the big mouth interviewed just spoke from the heart, naturally and unscripted?

  Everything in that video was staged and every word spoken was painfully scripted and read from a teleprompter. It makes the video seem so cultish, especially after watching so many unscripted live news interviews lately because of what’s going on.
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  2020 Memorial - No Need To Actually Have The Emblems

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  over at jw talk they're saying because they're having to hold the upcoming memorial at home, they dont need to actually have the emblems.

  apparently, listening to or watching the talk is the thing that counts.. "do this in rememberence of me" apparently means watching tony morris on your phone give a talk.. this begs the question... "what's the point?

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  “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.” (John 6:53)