Posts by ShadesofGrey

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Morality based on the bible is immoral.

by cyberjesus in

ShadesofGrey

We will continue to view this differently. The reason I'm no longer a JW is because I was doing some research, and I read the bible very closely. My goal was to gain a better understanding, my heart was open to what it had to say. No one is more surprised than me that it all fell apart upon deep consideration. And when it did, it wasn't just my religion that fell apart, but the bible and god. With the best intentions I asked one question too many, and there is no going back. If I had been looking to discredit it, we could argue that bias was the cause of this change. But it never even occured to me that studying deeper and deeper would drum me straight into disbelief.

I don't understand why things work the way they do... in the order that they do. I received the Spirit of Christ and there was no going back. Now if the Bible seems contradictory it bothers me, but not enough to lose my faith, because the Spirit has done so much good for me. I will worship Christ for that, and in addition the Spirit filters the scriptures for me, explaining things as I read... Now what if things happened in a different order and I researched the OT deeply before receiving the Spirit? It seems that would definitely cause disbelief for me. I do have faith that God is all wise and His justice is perfect and He continues to be in control.

Love to you and yours, SOG

32

ex-witness to atheist

by Itsallwrong in

hey all i was a witness most of my life in the lansing area of michigan.

i've glanced at online communities like this before but mostly shyed away from them because after leaving the organization i became an atheist.

i'm not ashamed of it by any means, but these forums and websites seem to be mostly filled with folks who are still religious but just don't agree with the governing body's methods.

ShadesofGrey

and if so proven, I'm going to decide whether I like him or not

I completely agree.

Shadesofgrey

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ex-witness to atheist

by Itsallwrong in

hey all i was a witness most of my life in the lansing area of michigan.

i've glanced at online communities like this before but mostly shyed away from them because after leaving the organization i became an atheist.

i'm not ashamed of it by any means, but these forums and websites seem to be mostly filled with folks who are still religious but just don't agree with the governing body's methods.

ShadesofGrey

I feel that being a dub if you are able to free yourself you will eventually free yourself of the whole god concept.

I think that this is usually the case. Jesus freed me...

To answer the OP: It seems to me that in this group the majority are non-christian.

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Were Jesus Christ Alive Today, who would he hang out with?

by HintOfLime in

jehovah's witnesses?

with their self-appointed "governing body", and endless "suggestions" regarding "christ-like" conduct and grooming?.

funamentalists?.

ShadesofGrey

Jesus is alive today and he has spent some time with me and a lot of other folks that I know... quite a diverse group really.

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The real identity of the F&DS revealed...any news yet?

by Aussie Oz in

recently barbara posted the update on the unthank case and mentioned that more would be revealed soon on the real identity of the faithful slave.. has it been revealed yet?

have i missed it?.

been looking, hoping!.

ShadesofGrey

From the WBT$ Australian Court Case

Outlaw, is there a link to this?

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You're not supposed to contact Ex-JWs children at all?

by Hairyhegoat in

jw
friends

the society has been cracking down hard on parents having contact with children who have left.

for a long time, it was kind of a "wink-wink" thing with the "necessary family business" loophole, and a lot of families found some relief with that.. but in the latest magazines and assembly parts, they're making it crystal-clear that pretty much nothing except a death in the family counts as "necessary family business".

and even then, you probably wouldn't be invited to the funeral.. the key is, they don't actually define what "necessary family business" is in the article.

ShadesofGrey

my absolutely malicious, vicious, destructive Jehovah's Witness parents

Yes, I do wonder if my life would improve upon being DFd.

I know of an elder who was removed because of eating breakfast with his DFd son who worked for the family business... so I guess not all of them get away with it.

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Do you suffer witrh colitis or candida? What helps me.

by Dogpatch in

jw
friends

stomach problems?.

okay i know it sounds cheezy.

but hopefully those of you who suffer these digestive problems won't just rely on your doctor's advice.

ShadesofGrey

Can you post this elsewhere, with slightly different wording perhaps? I would love to share this with a JW relative who really suffers from heartburn/reflux. I have candida and ulcerative colitis, so it wouldn't be unusual for me to run across it elsewhere. TIA

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is it moral and or rational to teach children and adults that Santa is real?

by mankkeli in

jw
friends

1) yes it is moral and rational.

2) yes it is moral.

3) yes it is rational.

ShadesofGrey

4)

If you know very well where the presents are coming from (you, or the kid's parents, not Santa) and you have no evidence that anyone receives anything from Santa, then it is not rational or moral to teach that Santa is real.

Love in Christ, SOG

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HOW DO YOU CONTINUE?

by angel.face in

jw
friends

lately i've been finding it more and more difficult to keep up a front.. .

before i learned the tatt i was the mover and shaker of our family.

i would study with the kids.

ShadesofGrey

I am in no way a JW at this point, but if I disassociate I know several family members that would suffer, so I am taking things very slowly with the family.

I told my parents that I will not be discussing my return to meetings because going to meetings worsens my depression, causing fear and anxiety about the Great Tribulation and causing me to stop praying due to unworthy feelings. These feelings are better when I don't attend meetings and worse when I do... so I will not discuss it.

I know one person, a man, who continues to go to meetings with his wife and child, but the child is much younger and this man is a Christian, so the circumstances are different. I do not know how I would be able to stand it.

I would read Combatting Cult Mind Control and see if you can use the techniques on your husband. I haven't read Releasing the Bonds yet. I am hoping there are good things in there, but I would not have your husband read it with you if he is so 110% opposed to what you have to say.

Sending positive thoughts, strength and prayers your way.

Sisterly love,

SOG

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Shocked at what my 3 year old just asked me

by jwfacts in

me - jehovah?

who is jehovah?.

me - oh.. zac - are you happy with me dad for remembering jehovah.

ShadesofGrey

oh, zoiks, I hope our 4 yr old doesn't tell MIL that we burned our Bible Story and Great Teacher books!

Sisterly love, SOG