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  Episode 8 - Get Out Of Her, My People - It All Came Tumbling Down - Is Now Out

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  episode 8 - get out of her, my people - it all came tumbling down, is now out.

  this is a long one and the next to last in my story.

  there comes a point in life when you know too much to ever go back to the person you once were, or to the cult that you once called home.

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  NewYork44M

  Hey, Dubstepped, I am listening to your podcast, even as am writing this. Great story!. BTW, I grew up in Indiana, chances are may know the same people.

  Good luck to your continued success.
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  How old would Br. Franz be today if he overlapped himself?

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
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  `~39, and ~ 59+ years more to go .

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  Mark Sanderson GB, currently 52. If he lives as long as F Franz did then that is another 46 years to go - 2063.

  Have you seen a pix of this overweight middle-aged man? He is one pork chop away from a heart attack. They are on thin ice if the basis of their theology is him living into his 90s.
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  A WTF Moment While In the WTS

  by Searching in

  1. jw
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  has anyone else had a moment, while still within the organization (and before learning ttatt) that caused them to stop and go, "this is kind of messed up.".

  for instance, back i believe in the early 2000's, i was attending a dc with my family.

  it was announced at the beginning of the convention that there was going to be a special announcement at the end, so for everyone to please try to remain until the very end of the meeting.

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  NewYork44M

  I have never seen a special announcement that was more than anticlimactic.
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  Of all the bible characters would you like any as a friend ?

  by Chook in

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  tax collector guy might help out..

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  NewYork44M

  I think Lot's wife has some stories to tell. I would love to hear these stories over a glass of wine.
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  New Kingdom Halls in Strip Malls & Real Estate Listings

  by 4thgen in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i met with a jw today and they showed me a picture of the new style kh build.

  the building was located in a ***strip mall**** in florida.

  i'm always amazed (and disgusted) at the new and inventive ways they think of expanding their real estate holdings.. along that vein...i recently discovered this: .

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  NewYork44M

  Access denied.

  Are you suggesting they are building strip malls that include a kingdom hall, or they are leasing space in a strip mall?
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  If they stopped the monthly report card ?

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  witnessing would cease, would it flow on to attendance numbers at meetings and then total decimation of the church..

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  There are legitimate reasons for tracking placements. This is important to develop a link between production and placement. But tracking time is meaningless - except for the obvious reason of controlling the r&f.
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  If they stopped the monthly report card ?

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  witnessing would cease, would it flow on to attendance numbers at meetings and then total decimation of the church..

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  NewYork44M

  The monthly time report is a part of the coercive control the elders have over the r&f.

  You take away the tool of control and you take away any motivation to participate.
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  Watchtower says: if your unbelieving relatives think you are in a cult, try to see things from their point of view

  by cognisonance in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  12 have empathy for unbelieving relatives.

  while we may be overjoyed about the bible truths we have learned, our relatives may mistakenly believe that we have been tricked or have become part of a cult.

  we should show empathy by trying to see things from their viewpoint and by listening carefully to discern their real concerns.

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  Perhaps your relatives think you are in a cult - BECAUSE YOU ARE!
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  TIL - Stay Alive Until '75 Was Plagiarized (Sort of)

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "keep alive until 1925" - j.f.

  rutherford.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fhjnywjhh8.

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  NewYork44M

  It is interesting that through my life as a JW through the 1960-80s I never heard about 1925 debacle - not even once!

  What a wonderful organization that is able to bury their history so that the r&f has no idea what their history was. I fear that the same thing is happening related to 1975.
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  No go field service days

  by Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's canada day today and not just any canada day, it's canada's 150 birthday.

  for some strange reason i was actually able to reason with my wife day and she agreed with me.

  field service on a special day wouldn't be appropriate.

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  NewYork44M

  New Years, Christmas, Thanksgiving. No holiday is off limits. In fact, there is generally an organized attempt to get the r&f out knocking on doors. God forbid they would be able to enjoy their day off from work.