i_drank_the_wine
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So... I got the 607 defense articles sent to me...
by i_drank_the_wine in...by a family member who recalled that this is one of my major apostate beefs.
the articles themselves are disgusting pieces of mis-information and require some serious mental gymnastics to actually believe.
however, they're so damn long-winded and waste so much time on pointless stuff like the 2 pages on the jw's beliefs about the 70 year period, that i am debating on whether or not to write the loyal j-dub family member back on it or not.. it shows just how brainwashed that family member is in that they know that 607 is a problem date, yet happily forward the articles as soem sort of proof while never once reading anything on the topic with an iota of thinking.. after years of having everything i've said on these topics ignored by everyone in my family that i've tried contacting over and over again, i really feel like taking the time to pick through their trash is going to be a big waste.
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New career at 30 - suggestions/ideas?
by i_drank_the_wine ini'm in need of a career change, or at the very least a new job that i can make money at while i continue to work on computer related side-projects.
i'm burnt as hell at computer programming, and being that i am self-taught and have very little corporate experience i am not looking into doing this anymore as it's all i've done as a career for the last 10 years.. long story short, bad money crunch, no degree of any sort, a gamble to try and make my own business failed - so i need to find a new career or job.
searching the papers is somewhat dis-heartening so far.. any ideas, suggestions, or advice for this daunting task of trying to find some way to keep from going bankrupt with a new job.
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Could the JW's survive another 1975?
by i_drank_the_wine inthe only years that i'm aware of in recent history that the jw's lost numbers was after the 1975 debacle.
someone posted on another thread about the damage control they're doing with the new "generation" nonsense with an assembly part where one person explains the "new light" to another that isn't too sure of it.. if they're having to do damage control like this over something relatively minor in comparison to 1975 (just some more "new light" as always), how do you think they would hold up under another 1975-level "oopsy"?
people seem to get less and less willing to be locked into religious systems that just don't conform with the modern world as it is.. if the internet was around, how many more people do you think would have google'd "jehovahs witnesses" at some point in 1976, perhaps while alone on the computer after the world didn't end?
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Do you ever fantasize...
by i_drank_the_wine in...about funny revenge plots on the jw's?.
- dressing up properly, going to a random memorial where the people don't know you, and "partaking of the emblems".
- going to a random kingdom hall where the people don't know you, give a couple "real" jw comments to earn trust / cred., give a third comment that contains the "f" curse in it, then act like nothing happened.
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Bathroom too close to the bookstudy?
by i_drank_the_wine indid any of you ever have the bathroom for your bookstudy too close to where everyone was sitting?
i had one bookstudy like that.
i never used the bathroom there except for one time when i intentionally went in there to make as loud of a poop as possible as an act of rebellion.
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WTBTS impact on the environment nubmers, repost from another jw site
by i_drank_the_wine intaken from: http://www.thebroadroad.com/forum/#topic/bring-to-ruin-those-ruining-the-earth-trees-wtbts.htm.
i never found statistics on the amount of paper the wtbts wastes, but i think they're might be a little hypocritical by parading the "he will bring to ruin those ruining the earth" verse that they always quote.
it got me curious and i decided to crunch some numbers.... they print 42 million washtowels a month, more than any other magazine in the world (http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/wp_e_20110501.pdf).
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Do you think that the JW religion will die out?
by i_drank_the_wine inwhile the number of jw's reported every year is still growing, it doesn't seem to really be growing as fast as they once did.. do you think that they will eventually level off and then decline?
some of this was based on the stats on this page i was reading: http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php granted, statistics can be presented in whatever light the author is trying to represent (look at the way the jw's massage their statistics to always be favorable).. of particular interest was their deductive math to find the number of people leaving yearly, which is pretty considerable.. a popular pew research study that lots of you probably heard about a couple years ago stated that jw's have the lowest family retention rate of any other mainstream religion.. combine the aging jw populace, the number of people leaving every year, the slowing growth rate numbers, the mindset held by many to "not have children in this system", the children that are had are only staying jw's roughly 1/3rd of the time according to statistics, the end never coming... add 20, 30 years?
could the jw's actually, for all intents and purposes, die out?.
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Good movie, totally creeped me out to see what Jesus would have been like today
by i_drank_the_wine inapologies in advance to any fellow ex-jw's that personally believe in christ.
we all have our own beliefs now, whatever works for you and isn't jw's - i am all for it.. i watched a netflix streaming movie yesterday called the encounter.
http://movies.netflix.com/wimovie/the_encounter/70184203?trkid=4213507.
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A question JW's won't answer
by i_drank_the_wine incan you become a jehovah's witness only using the bible?.
of course the answer is "no" - you have to use their study books, washtowels, etc.
although i was raised in this cult, i still kick myself for not asking myself simple questions like this until i was a young adult.
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JW's? or GW's?
by i_drank_the_wine init seems quite obvious now that the governing body is really in the "god" position of the entire organization.
jw's claim to go only by the bible, however you cannot become a jw without using wt literature.
the governing body claims to be almighty g*d's sole mouthpiece (yet they deny being inspired like the prophets of the b*ble somehow).