" After all, you are taught that only baptised people have the privilege of unrestricted access to God in prayer, and when you are baptised, you will too". Really?
trailerfitter
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AFTER baptism what happens next??
by trailerfitter inhi again,... yet another set of searching questions about the workings of the organisation from an outsider...hope you don't mind.
what happens to a member once baptised?
do they have a full personality removal and wt chip installed??
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Watchtower teaching have all the bases covered?
by trailerfitter ini am not sure if you are aware of the proposals by pastor micheal stahl who wants to get a register of atheists started so they activities like boycotting their businesses can be engaged in.
i mensioned this to my jw wife who already who i am trying to show that the wt policies are just a nutty as other american religious influences however she just retored that this is the sign of the end because there is a war going on.
i cannot get through to her and everything goes back to her newly found belief being the only true one.
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trailerfitter
Good stuff! our teenage so went to give blood the other day as a rebellious act. I think perhaps a giving act misguided but he still went ahead which is with my approval. He looked into the church of Satan on the internet and said he wanted to buy their bible...this perhaps is not the right way to approach this but he is dead against her joining that DAMNED church and wants to show her what she is doing that is against the whole family. I have tried all sorts except being interested simply because I am honest, it makes me boil over at the thought of them actually wanting jehovah to execute his plan. What ever I say or show it has an answer prepared which is not her logic... This is why I put the post up because it is indeed a firewall.
Although I am on here asking questions we avoid talking about any issues however after reading some of the article about the "mentally diseased apostates " Personally feel that something needs to be done....but it is futile isn't it?? I am just wholly shocked about the wording of the article in general. It is attacking everyone including mainstream religion. This just angers but again to get angry is a sign that someone is under the influence of Satan. Again the "Wicked Watchtower of the West" influence. It's Sunday and she'll be going to the congregation this afternoon. The food served for her is vital and can't live without it.
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AFTER baptism what happens next??
by trailerfitter inhi again,... yet another set of searching questions about the workings of the organisation from an outsider...hope you don't mind.
what happens to a member once baptised?
do they have a full personality removal and wt chip installed??
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trailerfitter
Yeah Yeah bird food . I was wondering if they got training on mass body clearance and JCB digger driving. Nuclear power station shut down proceedures etc but I was told Jehovah would take care of all of that after the event.
So in a nutshell there won't be much change other than obligation?
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Calling all "Mentally Diseased" Apostates!!
by serenitynow! inlol!.
next sunday is the wt discussion of the infamous july 15th study article "will you heed jehovah's clear warnings?".
i am pretty curious to see how the congregation comments on the material.
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trailerfitter
I just can't read all of the article,..... It is so boviously bias........ it goes on about chrisendom and the false stories, Christmas and holidays and how unclean it all is. The more I read the more I realise that the organisation is evil.
I feel so angry about the fact that they say we are either mentally ill or under the influence of Satan. Hasn't history and science proved anything?? I remember as a child being appauled at something on TV which showed that girls with cirly hair had the mark of Satan and were evil.... this is almost WT thinking...
The was a 300 year period in history that hindered people and put most in fear of being persecuted becuase of the little theory of Satan and witchcraft. Lest I hope it never happens again. Why are the WT so twisted??
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Meetings,Intolerable
by EmptyInside inwell,i hardly go to meetings,but not too many people in my congregation attend meetings.
it's been the local needs.
i still attend the occassional meeting to keep people off my back.
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trailerfitter
Hi thanks for posting this and I got a tit bit of information. I am not a member of the church but the partner is. I will not go to the KH but I get to see videos that they make of the sermons unfortunately. I am under the impression that they all lead to the subject of Armaggeddon on every sermon but perhaps I am mistaken??..
What my partner denies and I know now that you have confirmed it, they think we are under the influence of the Devil..This to me is very important if it is being said at the kingdom hall often they this is what she will be believing.
I hope things work out for you EI.
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AFTER baptism what happens next??
by trailerfitter inhi again,... yet another set of searching questions about the workings of the organisation from an outsider...hope you don't mind.
what happens to a member once baptised?
do they have a full personality removal and wt chip installed??
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trailerfitter
Hi Again,... yet another set of searching questions about the workings of the organisation from an outsider...hope you don't mind.
What happens to a member once baptised? Do they have a full personality removal and WT chip installed??
No seriously,...What are their responsibiliies and what if any,...planned route in the organisation. I am under the impression that a baptism is a special event and not held at the KH> This member to get baptised is a woman?
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AFTER baptism what happens next??
by trailerfitter inhi again,... yet another set of searching questions about the workings of the organisation from an outsider...hope you don't mind.
what happens to a member once baptised?
do they have a full personality removal and wt chip installed??
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trailerfitter
Hi Again,... yet another set of searching questions about the workings of the organisation from an outsider...hope you don't mind.
What happens to a member once baptised? Do they have a full personality removal and WT chip installed??
No seriously,...What are their responsibiliies and what if any,...planned route in the organisation. I am under the impression that a baptism is a special event and not held at the KH> This member to get baptised is a woman?
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WT: "Disfellowshipped teenagers = Nadab and Abihu"
by cedars incontinuing on my objective sojourn through the latest watchtower study editions, i thought i would write a few words about the article "god's rest - have you entered into it?
" taken from the july 15th watchtower.
incidentally, this watchtower is the same one that i discussed on my previous post concerning the society's latest bout of apostate-bashing.
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trailerfitter
I just added 2 more folk to the list that God killed.
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Crisis of Conscience - The Movie
by cedars ini know... how cool would that be??!.
having just commented on the post by trailerfitter about the situation with his wife, and how i have personally found the book crisis of conscience by ray franz to be the perfect antidote to the society's perception of itself as being god's earthly organisation, the thought occurred to me: what if there was a movie about ray franz and his life?
obviously the society would be in uproar, and letters would be read out to all congregations all over the world not to go and see it, but just imagine!
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trailerfitter
Ha ha excellent idea!
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Watchtower teaching have all the bases covered?
by trailerfitter ini am not sure if you are aware of the proposals by pastor micheal stahl who wants to get a register of atheists started so they activities like boycotting their businesses can be engaged in.
i mensioned this to my jw wife who already who i am trying to show that the wt policies are just a nutty as other american religious influences however she just retored that this is the sign of the end because there is a war going on.
i cannot get through to her and everything goes back to her newly found belief being the only true one.
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trailerfitter
What would you do if you saw one on the back of a car and you were driving a bulldozer??