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How could have Rutherford been a 'drunk'?
by wholewheat ini feel that the apostate's claims that rutherford was a drunk to be far fetched.
on the one hand, they claim that he was so drunk that the brothers at bethel shipped him to san diego to beth sarim, where he stayed drunk out of his mind, then on the other hand, they claimed that he ruled the society with an iron fist, that he was a dictator.
no drunk could have ruled the society like a dictator.
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"seven stars" of Revelation 1:20 - JW...
by stevieb1 in.
according to the march 15, 2002 wt page 14 the "seven stars" of revelation 1:20 in christ's righ hand apply exclusively to appointed jw elders today and since they and the governing body are under christ's direction we should submit to their leadership etc.. .
at the kingdom hall last week i heard a talk in wich the speaker intimated that since the congregations in asia minor all received letters they were organized in much the same way as the wt is today.. what is your take on this matter?
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Heavenly Hope
by cyrano inthe watchtower teaches only a few have the heavenly hope.
men of old such as abraham will supposedly be raised from the dead and live on earth.
yet, hebrews tells us these men actually had a heavenly hope.
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Homework: what do nations think about america?
by raven101 in.
i would appreciate any input from residents of other nations for this homework assignment, as well as americans.. what do members of other nations really think about america, compared with what we percieve them as thinking?.
please help, assignment due tomorrow!.
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Illuminati?!
by lv4fer inmaybe someone already talked about this, i'm sorry i missed it.
do you think wt involved?
what proof?
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why i do believe in 607
by perspicacia2 inthe bible reports that the babylonians under nebuchadnezzar destroyed .
chronology, the desolation of jerusalem would have been in the year 587/6 .
babylon (in his accession year, 605 b.c.e.
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JW's (again) dodge the question.....
by TheApostleAK inq is the organization a direct channel between god and humanity?
a again, our governing body has never claimed that our organization is inspired or infallible.
instead they, our governing body, study the bible diligently and through prayer they make a request for his holy spirit to direct them and be upon them.
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Anybody see the July 1 2002 WT?
by Lieu inif anyone has read the study articles...exactly what did you think?
my take on the matter: all of the "great crowd of other sheep" are now being equated to the 'foreigners' of isaiah's prophesy.the 'gb' now thinks they are actually zion instead of being sons of zion which explains their thinking they are the "mother" and not the sons.but they are also the sons of zion....or earthly sons...but also zion...but wtf?if the gb are = to zion which is = to jah's woman, then they actually think they are = to jah...and are not the bride of christ (son) but have the audacity to think they could be the bride of jah (father).a reiteration of the 1919 stupid thing runs rampant throughout the article....can't we just stop with the dates fellas?!!
!they think they (gb) have been repurchased by jah .... not by christ and his blood who is supposed to be thier husbandly ownerthey try and rationalise why the congregational election of elders stopped...instead of telling the truth of why it stopped.. i have come to the conclusion that the gb does not acknowledge anything christ did, nor the fact that the 'annointed' are suposed to make up the 'bride of christ'.
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Reporting Molestations to Elders
by Vitameatavegamin inmy feeling on this whole sexual abuse matter is that if a child has been or is being molested, it should be taken straight to the police.
why allow the elders to "decide" first if there is any merit to the allegations.
mainly because if the accused has committed this crime and denies to the elders, the victim is basically screwed in the eyes of the congregation.
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Other thoughts: the two witnesses idea
by larc inwhether the two witnesses to two separate incidences is new or old, it is still a very stupid policy.
let us suppose a child was raped and their parents took the matter to police.
further suppose that the police said, that they couldn't investigate because there had not been any other complaints against the rapist.