when i first heard about the new "generation" explanation i was confused because i didn't see clearly how they were explaining it.. now it looks like they finally figured it out for themselves and it is no longer confusing.. it is now a simple, ignorant, bold face lie.. this is from the january 1st watchtower.
(and i hope to hell someone from writing gets wind of this).
paragraph 15 page 31 blue stands for the exact words in the watchtower.
Hi Vid; I made that point to 2 witnesses that showed up at my door. Jesus' understanding of a generation in it's first fulfillment was 37 yrs. from 33 until 70.
Long enough for those who heard the warning to benefit from it. Evidently, the GB doesn't consider Jesus' understanding of a generation as correct. Maybe
they should kick him out for "running ahead". He can always join us.
ok so i have already been talked to about this and i always have difficulty finding a retort.
my friend/elder condtantly tells me to visit bethel to prove its gods org--efficient, obedient, loving place, yadda yadda.
and he also uses how many go out and preach the same message, how no matter where you go youll get the same loving treatment, follow the bible as best they can (ha), show lots of love, do t celebrate pagan holidays, etc etc.
I have found this question starts a good discussion;" As you are willing to sacrifice not only your life but the lives of your family in the name of this religion, what hard proof do you have that this is exclusively the true religion?' All respones will be subjective. True love, unity & obedience. Point out that those are not exclusive; any religion can claim that. True love? How about the pedophile cases. Unity? Nazis had that. Obedience too. Mark of the true religion would be accurate prophesy. WBTS has had ZERO. Have fun with this.
i received the bootprint of jehovah on my ass 35 years ago.. i've missed a lot of meetings since that time.
well, i can't say i've emotionally "missed" them!.
while writing my book i had cause to reflect on what my life might have been had i not walked out of a kingdom hall for the last time in 1978.. what if i had gone on attending meetings?.
I pass a hall every Sunday morning. Usually I am:
Going skiing.
Taking my lovely wife to breakfast.
Screaming past on my Harley.
Taking the wife yard sailing. ( I'm on the fence about going into the hall on this one.)
You're right Terry. If nothing else, I have redeemed thousands of hours of my life back. Hours that would have been sacrificed to a cult. Such a waste.
I'll take yard sailing after all.
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the sign seems to give ideas to the brother.... .
(photo taken from ministry ideaz on facebook).
Ahh Yonge St. Toronto. They blocked off about 10 blocks back in the late 60's/early 70's. Got a room for $9.00. They refunded $2.00 if you brought the key back the next morning. Was there the Friday the dropped the drinking age to 18 . Couldn't into a bar anywhere. Caught a blues concert on Toronto island with Eric Clapton. All gone but the memories & the Molson Canadian. ( If you're really Canandian, you're already humming that tune in your head.)
i thought i was back on the jw radar after my jw daughter had a local elder call on me back in 2011 - but apparently not.
he obviously didn't let his elders know i lived here, no record was kept for posterity and just called my daughter telling her that her " dad has differences with the organization " because he never called back on me as he promised to talk again.
as i'm just inactive for 10 years.. so these two older jw ladys come knocking yesterday - one lady about 57 and the other lady older about 71 yrs.old ( i asked how long they had been jw's and told me they both have been in 30 years.
Good Job Flipper; I enjoy a good debate with witnesses. I never let them know I was in for 50 yrs. It's always good to leave them thinking on their on.
Happy Birthday Paul. As I'm in NY, I think your birthday on this side of the earth isn't until tomorrow. In any case HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!
please share how your wt study went today...
Hi Terry; I should mention that to the ex. Her Dad was born in 1898 & knew Rutherford personally. Tough demotion for all those snooty family members with family in as " anointed ones". Makes them equal to the rank & file. LOL!!!
please share how your wt study went today...
Next week it will be " We need more of your money. God told us to ask you for more money. If we don't get more of your money, God Almighty just might make us smite you'all." (Suckers !!) No, really, he said that.
ive been around this board for quite awhile.
it has helped immensely.
lately i just read everyone elses experiences and try and forget the whole nightmare...but i cant.
Bonezz; Know how you feel. I don't believe she'll change her mind about having a relationship with you any time soon, but maybe she'll have to answer tough questions from others. That could lead into her having to do research & maybe if she's like her Dad, she'll see through the deception. Good Luck & hang in there.
i visited relatives out of state this weekend and sure enough watched two witnesses going door to door approach the house.
i casually walked out to the front yard and, sure enough an older brother with a young married man in tow came over to me.
i let them go through the usual speil & took the magazines.
I was careful not to mention any WT phrase. I repeatedly went back to flip flops that cost the lives of their members. I got the "light getting brighter" answer. I said "Well as the one true religion led by God certainly God would know. For him to let your members die over a principle you changed years later would violate the cardinal rule of the one true religion, that of loving one another. (No reply to that one.) This went on for 45 minutes.
