irondork
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Who really are the FOOD SERVERS?
by irondork inat a convention in washington, d.c., 1935, j.f.
rutherford announced the identity of the great multitude, of revelation 7:9 as being the other sheep of john 10:16.. i dont remember if i heard it in a talk or read it in a piece of literature, but i remember some commentary about how the governing body of that time finally came to this understanding.
they had been struggling with the identity of this great crowd, even speculating that this group would occupy a lower station in heaven than those who would serve with christ as kings and priests.
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Apostates use counterfit words
by irondork insurely the wts knows exactly what it is up to, evidenced by it's spot-on description of it's own tactics, albeit used to misdirect the reader to another conclusion.. .
w/11 7/15 will you heed jehovah's clear warnings?
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Good time for R&F to preemptively question GB validity
by irondork inwith the new light in the july 15 watchtower, now might be the perfect time for rank and file members to question wether or not the big boys are who they say they are.
in light of the fact that the men who claim to be the sole channel of communication for all mankind could not even grasp their own identity for the last 100 years, wouldn't now be a good time to turn the tables on the elders who are so quick to drag a questioning dub to the back room and demand loyalty to the governing body?.
wouldn't now be a good time to put the july 15 watchtower in the middle of the table and ask to see the credentials on these men without fear of being suspected of apostacy?
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Disfellowshipped for PARTAKING
by irondork ini wonder if anyone has ever been disfellowshipped just for partaking.
of course they would eventually tag it as apostacy, but the real reason would stand - and could get the attention of local media.. .
the newsies tend to shy away from doctrinal entanglements, but the idea of a "christian" church disfellowshipping one of their own for taking the sacrament - surely that would raise someones eyebrow.
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Trinity, Immortality of the soul, Hell fire... Homosexuality
by irondork inmost people here who have spent any amount of time studying the bible will agree that the bible allows for more than one interpretation of these topics.
well, the first three topics, anyways.. reading the gay marriage discussions on this board i see a common thread weaving its way through: no acknowledgement whatsoever that there is an equally valid interpretation of the bible that does not condemn homosexuality.. once in a while i will see the word trinity mentioned on this forum and no big deal is made of it (for the most part).
trinitarian and non-trinitarian teachings are accepted as variations of the christian understanding of the bible without any judgment being made regarding the genuineness of that person's christian identity or relationship with god.. mention the word homosexuality, and there is a huge difference in attitude.
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All Evangelical Leaders Will Soon Be Doing Gay Weddings
by irondork intheology has always been about institutional survival.
it still is and evangelical leaders may not be able to think clearly but they always have known how to count the money.. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/all-evangelical-leaders-w_b_2963490.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003&ir=gay%20voices.
frank schaeffernew york times best-selling author.
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An offer from the Governing Body
by irondork in.
the governing body took us along to an unusually high mountain, and showed us all the friends and family members that had been ripped away and they said to us.... .
all these people we will give back to you if you fall down and do an act of worship to us.
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How to motivate your local newspaper - I spoke to a reporter
by irondork inreading jwleak's thread about the age newspaper article, victoria, australia, i was thinking how we could motivate our local newspapers to cover such a story.
i emailed an old friend of mine from wash., d.c. who used to write for the associated press and now hosts a news show in colorado, and asked him how a person could motivated one's local newspaper to take an interest in a story like this.. .
he answered:.
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Well, the WTS got at least ONE end-time prophesy right
by irondork inthey participated in the fulfillment of prophesy at luke 21:8:.
and he said, see that you are not led astray.
and, the time is at hand!
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We just laughed and laughed
by irondork inan experience was told buy one of our congregation's uber pioneer sisters regarding a bible study she brought to the memorial last year.
a good study.
smart.