If your family treats you like you are dead, since you left the Witnesses. Try this, write your own obituary and send it to them.
"Dragon passed away from his former life in a awake state today. He was accompanied by his wife and his future child, as they followed him into passing.
Dragon was a former member of Jehovah's Witnesses and wasted a large chunk of his life preaching about a God and religion that do not exist. He found that love and understanding were more powerful then hate, and thus contracted a incurable disease of "truth."
Dragon was proceeded in passing by four cousins, a uncle and several other members of his family. Services will be held throughout his remaining new life, as he celebrates the life he as crossed in to. Contributions can be made to his bank account, and he will make sure it is put to good use."
... send that to them, and tell them that if you died, it only seems appropriate that you get a proper written farewell.
Just my thought
kenpodragon
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Would you dare do this?
by kenpodragon inif your family treats you like you are dead, since you left the witnesses.
try this, write your own obituary and send it to them.. .
"dragon passed away from his former life in a awake state today.
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What it means to JW's now that Bill Bowen is DF'ed
by kenpodragon ini take you to the future, to a elder meeting with someone in a serious state of depression ...
it is the backroom to a kingdom hall, and three people are sitting in a room.
one is a woman, and the other are two elders.
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I disagree that woman would not go to the elders. You have to understand the mind set of many Witnesses to see that a site is not going to stop them from going to the people they were told should help them. I know people who read COC and went to the elders for help, and that book was far more powerful. Yes, as humans we do stupid things ... I edited the spelling by the way. (Thanks)
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So many miles
by kenpodragon intonight when i was riding my bike, i was riding a little further then normal.
in doing so i was starting to feel a little tired and uneasy.
so i turned around and i could see in the way off distance the area i started at, what amazed me was how far i had really come.
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Tonight when I was riding my bike, I was riding a little further then normal. In doing so I was starting to feel a little tired and uneasy. So I turned around and I could see in the way off distance the area I started at, what amazed me was how far I had really come. It was encouraging to see that I had put so many miles between me and the starting point.
It got me thinking as I road further, about what I was like 6 years ago. How I was a Witness and a gung ho zealot in the Kingdom Hall. Someone who could take on anything, and come away with success. Someone who never thought that one day I would be calling myself a Pagan, and writing on a board populated by DF'ed, DA'ed and Apostates.
The thing is, if I only looked at the beginning and the end, none of my present life would make any sense. Thus I know and I contemplate the issues in the middle. The miles I have passed in these six years and the knowledge those miles have imparted. It helps to look at them, and to sometimes review them years later. As I have learned that often life's greatest wisdoms lie in the past with moments we did not think about enough.
Yes I have travel miles, and I have road them through curves and up hills. I have seen people come into my life with the best of intentions, and allowed them to leave with the best of motives. The motive to keep my life on the course that I want. I have seen events happen that I thought would be a challenge, and now see them as nothing more then a speed bump I had to peddle over slowly. The miles sure do pass quickly, but yet they all do pass.
So as I rode my bike this evening and looked back at the distance I had traveled, I realized that that distance empowered me to realize I could continue on and move ever forward. Sometimes it pays to look back, but only to see what we have learned and what we have left behind. Not with remorse, or discouragement ... but with pride for our success, and hope for our future.
Just my thought
Dragon
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What it means to JW's now that Bill Bowen is DF'ed
by kenpodragon ini take you to the future, to a elder meeting with someone in a serious state of depression ...
it is the backroom to a kingdom hall, and three people are sitting in a room.
one is a woman, and the other are two elders.
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I take you to the future, to a elder meeting with someone in a serious state of depression ... It is the backroom to a Kingdom Hall, and three people are sitting in a room. One is a woman, and the other are two elders. The woman sites down and starts crying. The elders act caring and ask her what is wrong. To which she replies, "I am dealing with a issue from my childhood and I am having a hard time handling it right now." The elders give her a moment and then ask her what the problem is, thinking of course that she is about to confess a sin that they suspected anyway. The woman responds, "When I was eight I spent the night at my best friends house at the time, and Brother Smith raped me." To which the elders act shocked, as Brother Smith is now a Prosiding Overseer in the neighboring congregation. The elders speak softly and with a caring sounds and say, "Are you sure this happened, as we know that as children we can see things different then they really happened. Plus, Brother Smith is such a outstanding elder. It seems so unlikely that he would do such a thing." The woman draws back her tears for a moment in shock, and replies "I know what happened, and I have asked for help before." The elders give the classic shocked look, "what do you mean you asked for help?" Again the woman pulls back tears, although you can hear the pain in her voice, "When I was 15 I talked to the elders and told them then, but they told me that since I had no witnesses they could not do anything. My parents listened to them and told me to try to handle this without making to much trouble. I was treated like a liar!" The elders looks back and forth at each other in a lost look, "I am sorry that happened!" The lady then starts to cry more and stumbles into a thought that she did not want to bring up, "I saw online at this site called silentlambs that others have had this problem too, and I just needed help. I cry about this every night and I know this man knows what he did to me, and I hate to see him. He is out there in the assemblies giving talks, and acting all holy and right when he did this to me and ruined my life" The elders shift into a stern look, "Did you say you went to a apostate site?" The woman looks caught off guard, "no I went to a support site for people in this same situation" and blows her nose from all the crying. The elders open their Bible and begin counseling, "don't you think you should go to Jehovah first, before you go to a apostate site that is bent on harming Jehovah and his organization?" The lady stops crying, but her voice still shows signs of the recent tears, "What? I am here for help, how did this go into apostate information?" The elders loss all emotion and start looking angry, "The man who runs that site is disfellowshipped and is against the organization, wouldn't you say that makes him a apostate?" The woman looks even more upset, but begins to build in strength, "I don't care, the site helped me and brought me to the level that I could talk about this again with you and to seek help." The elders speak abruptly, "Well you need to give more thought to your actions, we will need to consider this in what you are saying. As you may be speaking with Satan influencing your thoughts and we have to be careful for the well being of the congregation." Pausing to open their book bag, "here is some information on the danger of seeking help from the internet, and apostates." The woman stands in disgust, "I came her for help on being raped as a child and all you want to talk about is apostate information ... how is that helping me. I am disgusted!" She then walks out and is heard crying harder then before. The elders look at one another and speak judicially, "I see that Satan has her now, we may have a bigger problem here then we thought", to which the other elder nods in agreement. ... Yes the world has changed since the disfellowshipping for the Witnesses. Is it going to really help them? My thoughts Dragon
Edited by - kenpodragon on 13 August 2002 17:6:59
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Bill Bowen Disfellowshipped
by silentlambs inas of 8:30 pm this evening the appeal hearing decided to uphold the decision.
i spoke to them for over an hour and tried to reason with them as to the validity of their decision.
frankly, they were not interested.
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kenpodragon
I think it is pretty easy to see that the GB asked to have him DF'ed at all cost. The hearing was nothing more then something they could say "we tired!" when in fact it was over months ago.
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Bill Bowen Disfellowshipped
by silentlambs inas of 8:30 pm this evening the appeal hearing decided to uphold the decision.
i spoke to them for over an hour and tried to reason with them as to the validity of their decision.
frankly, they were not interested.
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CONGRATULATIONS!!!! Sound like the best step into a much better life!
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Did man go to the moon?
by sleepy indid man go to the moon?.
just watched an amazing programme that claimed the moon landings were faked.i was supprised at how compeling the evidence against a moon landing was.anyone know more about the subject?.
if it is true that this didn't happen it raises a whole lot of questions about how trust worthy our governments are.
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kenpodragon
I saw something like that once, and to be honest it raise a lot of good questions. I do not know if I 100% trust that we went, and to be honest, since they never went back ... it does show that perhaps they did not make it there. With all the work on Space Stations and things like that, why not go back to the moon. Who knows, maybe aliens told them to stay within a certian amount of miles. Everything is possible I guess. Fun to ponder if nothing else.
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Thimoty Campell
by happy man inwhen i start to go out on xjw bords, one year ago, i first come to this mans board, hee have several diffrent places, wher you can disscuss religion, but i understand he was a very bigg anti jw.. when i now read att canal c, i find his name, and nick name, morloc, i understand that he have come back to us, i am radher sure this is t;c, perhaps someone here now how it is.
i can give you some exampels of what he was saying tonigt on this canal c,.
it's no different with the organization.
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kenpodragon
I like both boards, they each have their own qualities!
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Thimoty Campell
by happy man inwhen i start to go out on xjw bords, one year ago, i first come to this mans board, hee have several diffrent places, wher you can disscuss religion, but i understand he was a very bigg anti jw.. when i now read att canal c, i find his name, and nick name, morloc, i understand that he have come back to us, i am radher sure this is t;c, perhaps someone here now how it is.
i can give you some exampels of what he was saying tonigt on this canal c,.
it's no different with the organization.
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We gave him a shout! He has only done 4 post over here, so I would not think he is a regular over here. We at the other board thought Tim should know about this.
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Moving On
by songmistress ini have been away from the wtbts for about 6 years after being with them for 18-20 years if i count the studying time.
i remember feeling as if i should add a title to my name.
you know like doctors are md's and lawyers are esq.
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kenpodragon
Yes, but I like coming to boards like this to discuss topics. Not to heal, but for fun! Same reason why I visit martial arts boards and others, just for fun!!!!!!!!!!!!