If you make up an excuse such as masturbation or some other sin, they will try to help you overcome it. (That's their duty as elders.) They'll expect you to overcome it even after you step down; they'll be asking you about your "progress". When I was reaching out I've had individual elders ask me if I masturbated or not. I remember at least one asking if I was circumcised or not.
But if you use your health condition as the reason, there is nothing they can do about that.
well according to the governing body aka> jehovah's spokesman for the entire earthly population, a toy such as sparlock that is in the posession of small children who's parents are jws makes jehovah "sad".. well if that is true then jehovah needs to see a psychiatist for depression caused by unreasonableness and phobias.
if this little child toy makes him sad, and prone to wrath and murder, as biblical accounts show him wipeing out vast portions of the human and animal populations when his sadness hits major proportions, he also needs to take some anger management courses to get a handle on his sanity and riegn in his jealousy which seems destructive and out of control at times.. it is no idle speculation that if jehovah finds sparlock offensive and makes him depressed, he's got some serious mental issues, but realistically this sadness is all a projection of the governing body and shows them to have the issues that they are projecting on a imaginary figure whom they call jehovah.
in other words the currant governing body are a bunch of mentally sick bastards in a delusional state of mind..
So...Jehovah does not intervene when "his possession" were in the Nazi concentration camps, but he has a cow over a child's toy. Even before that, he first creates everything and then "feels regret" in Noah's day.
Definitely unbalanced. He needs the kingdom to come and make him perfect.
greetings to you all from scotland!
it's nice to finally be able to say hello to you all, having been a long time reader of the forum.. i put off signing up as i didn't feel i had much to contribute, but if i'm honest, seeing atlantis' post about confidential information pushed me into it.. i hope i can get round to writing my story - i always enjoy reading others and it never ceases to amaze me how many have had similar experiences.. so there goes my first post!.
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Welcome!
Welcome to the group. When I was a MS I was single, worked 50 hrs/week, took care of several elderly bro and sis and my house and animals and my non-witness handicapped mom. I was the accts servant, the asst school overseer, handled mikes and the sound system, was an attendant, had at least 2 meeting parts each week and gave public talks. Was also "on call" for last minute substitute Sunday speaker (got a call Sat 9pm asking me to give a public talk in the morning), made shepherding calls, worked in the prison ministry, AND put in at least 20 hrs/month field service. Oh and I frequently cleaned the entire hall by myself and frequently did outside work by myself (raking, trimming bushes, sweeping etc)
But still that was never enough. And never good enough. One Saturday I was supposed to take the group out in service but that morning I decided not to show up, and to just never go back. No one called or stopped by until about 4 or 5 years later. (New circuit overseer?) Then they wouldn't leave me alone so I wrote a letter to the elders saying I had left the organization "several years ago" and asked them not to call ad not to come on my property.
i was thinking about this the other day when doing a bit of tidying up of my wardrobe.
all the kh suits are now pushed to the back of the wardrobe and i am seriously thinking about a visit to the charity shop to get rid of most of them.. for me one of the (few) enjoyable aspects of being a jw was getting dressed up.
my secular work very rarely involves putting on a dress suit & tie so i miss getting dressed up - smart suit , tie , shiny shoes , slapping on the aftershave.
Actually, I did not like dressing up at that time but I certainly do now.
At that time, I dressed up because it was required. I hate to shave, but I used to have to shave again in the evening after work, for the meetings. Or else for conventions and assemblies I'd be dressed up and sweating my butt off, helping elderly sisters in and out of my car, walking across the stadium parking lot carrying lunch coolers in the heat or rain. I certainly don't miss field service in the Florida sun where you sweat so much even your tie and belt get soaking wet with sweat.
Now if I dress up it's because I want to, for a special event...a special date, going to the symphony or a wedding or funeral. Most churches don't have a dress code; if I go I wear business casual.
already late for work, but there is a leading article in todays miami herald (wed 5 dec 2012, english version) about the bus crash on saturday that killed 2 brothers and injurred about 25 others on their way to the west palm beach assembly.. much of the article focusses on the comments by one of the airport police who first arrived on the scene.
basically the two who died were side-by-side on the second row, crushed by the roof of the bus.
three others are still in critical condition.. sorry i have to run but someone can detail this later.. rub a dub.
This is very sad. The fact that they're JW's is irrelevent. These people were on their way to the convention or some kind of meeting. They placed their trust in this driver to get them there. He should have known the height of the bus, and a sign indicated the height of the overpass . The first news report said he was going 20mph which had to be a lie.
What makes it more sad is that if the driver is a witness, probably none of the injured ones will sue and he will probably keep his "privileges" if he has any. He's responsible for the death of two people. Even though it's accidental it's still manslaughter.
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Be sure to share the Kingdom message with them!
will you receive your soul as a spoil?.
18 we need to remember that what jehovah has promised as a spoil is our soul.
even if a few of hisservants perish in the persecution that may come during the great tribulation when the political horns of the wild beast turn against religion, those faithful ones will not really have lost out.
The harlot DOES go into the lake of fire...first the wild beast eats her up. So whle she is in the beast's belly, the beast goes into the lake of fire, where the beast poops her out thru his...well you know.
i like to share my picture with you and that you share yours with me.
but only if that does not represent any problem to you.
here is mine.
Wolfman, I'm a pilot already.
i used to listen to all the stupid comments and wonder if i could sneak out of there and scram!
even after i resigned as an elder, i went for a while and eventually began missing more and more meetings.
but while i was there, i'd listen to comments, chuckle to myself how dumb it all was and then go home with the knowledge that my days were numbered there..
I would usually be working on a talk or meeting part during a meeting. Often I'd get up and stand at the literature desk and do that. Since I was a MS and attendant everyone thought I was taking the count or handling some kind of congregation business.
I just couldn't bear to listen to these uneducated people who don't even use correct grammar and cannot read. Most of the brothers on the platform were totally incompetent. For example, during the WT Sister Jones answered a question correctly. But conductor kept calling on people, trying to get someone to give the correct answer. Well the first person he called on gave the answer. So when he kept calling on more and more people, the hands stopped coming up because everyone was wondering what is he looking for? Then when he finally gives the answer everyone says, "That's what Sister Jones said." Then he says, "I didn't hear her." After the mtg I ask him, then why did you thank her for her comment if you didn't hear what she said? Why didn't you ask her to repeat it if you didn't hear what she said?
Or - here's a good one - the visiting speaker (Sunday) and his wife stay for the WT, during which the speaker raises his hand to comment. The conductor calls on him: "Let's get this visiting brother over here. And can you tell us your name please?"
I just shake my head and say to myself, "No wonder none of these people can hold jobs."
