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"There will be blood" - I DO BELIEVE there will be an up rise very soon

by raymond frantz in

i was moved from the post of another user on this topic.like the film "there will be blood" that deals with passive aggression in religion i do now think that there will be an inevitable uprise against the lunatics of the governing body .too many of us wake up in a rate that has never been seen before because of the internet .what do you think ?

what shape will this uprise take ?.

cuba libre.

Devil_Fish

donate 1 penny using their credit card machines. if every one does it once it will bankrupt the wt if they are not allready.

df

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"There will be blood" - I DO BELIEVE there will be an up rise very soon

by raymond frantz in

i was moved from the post of another user on this topic.like the film "there will be blood" that deals with passive aggression in religion i do now think that there will be an inevitable uprise against the lunatics of the governing body .too many of us wake up in a rate that has never been seen before because of the internet .what do you think ?

what shape will this uprise take ?.

cuba libre.

Devil_Fish

they wont let you in the door of there lpublicl talk.

dtf

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Watchtower - You Have Been Asked to Respond...

by headisspinning in

the watchtower has been invited to respond and comment on any aspect of the menlo park kingdom hall cases as discussed in the videos here:.

http://ex-jw.com/menlo-park-legal-advisor-tells-his-story.

their representatives can make contact by email at [email protected].

Devil_Fish

Steele got an anon. tip that the WT has now sent letters to all the major news papers threatening litigation if they ran his story. Can any one confirm this?

D_F

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Menlo Park Legal Advisor Tells All

by Juan Viejo2 in

someone sent me a link to the anoninsurrection youtube page.

i found eleven videos documenting an interview with the legal advisor for the former menlo park kingdom hall elders.

you can find them here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plszmu_qv0dgtco2wl5bnjdx12ny2_cmoo .. i've also published the entire set of eleven along with my comments on ex-jw.com.

Devil_Fish

Why not take it up with the court? you ask.

because realy, what would there be to gain at this point? Another car crash? a drive by shooting? Why do I want that? It's bad enough that I'm on here talking about the whole mess. I would rather be done with the situation and move on with my life. hopefully the F_____G WT will have bigger fish to fry with all the pedo suits.

The whole story is interesting but very anti-climactic. If I can fill in any details for any one let me know.

D_F

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Menlo Park Legal Advisor Tells All

by Juan Viejo2 in

someone sent me a link to the anoninsurrection youtube page.

i found eleven videos documenting an interview with the legal advisor for the former menlo park kingdom hall elders.

you can find them here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plszmu_qv0dgtco2wl5bnjdx12ny2_cmoo .. i've also published the entire set of eleven along with my comments on ex-jw.com.

Devil_Fish

John Steele belives (alledges) that Smith or an att. working with smith wrote it, and smith got Brenda Tolbert to Stamp it with the Judges Sig. Wile the Judge was on Vaca.

Back to the court case:

Jason's case had merrit. The Identity Theft and the set up of the 60K in the account with Jason's name was the main issue. Jason found the money accidently when he walked into chase and asked if they had any accounts with his name on them. Turned out they did and it had 60K in it. Jason asked to put a freeze on the account, and reported it to MPPD. A few days later, Brede reports to MPPD that he found an account with Jason's name on it and that jason had been embezzeling from the MPJW's. MPPD drops the ball on the investigation. perhaps their hands were buisy catching somthing green. (Aledgedly)

You know how the WT got this case shut down really? Do you really want to know?? Well I'll tell you.

They turned Jason's wife against him. They told her that Jason was against Jehovah, and that she needed to divorce him. She did, and took the kids. But not before she sabotaged Jason's computer hard drive which had court documents on it by placing it in a microwave on high for an hour right as she took the kids and split. Aledgidly.

Later on she would get Jason thrown in jail by pretending to get pushed out of a trailer by Jason. Clasic he said she said with two wittnesses one saying he pushed her the other saying she threw her self on the ground as Jason walked by, Long Story Short: She had a bruse, Jason went to jail.

It was after that that Jason withdrew his name from the case, and the I. D. Theft was no longer an issue, there by killing the whole case. Now Jason is trying to get his family back together, and hopes to one day again be an elder.

Disclaimer: I don't know for a fact that all of this is true, however These are the events as best I can recall them.

D_F

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Menlo Park Legal Advisor Tells All

by Juan Viejo2 in

someone sent me a link to the anoninsurrection youtube page.

i found eleven videos documenting an interview with the legal advisor for the former menlo park kingdom hall elders.

you can find them here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plszmu_qv0dgtco2wl5bnjdx12ny2_cmoo .. i've also published the entire set of eleven along with my comments on ex-jw.com.

Devil_Fish

I can confirm that the man in these videos is John Steel, Legal advisor to the former Coporate Executive Officers of "The Menlo Park Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses, Inc."

This coporation was a fully independant non-profit religious coporation that was set up when the WT was still congregational before the whole fiasco in Texas. This coporation had no "by-laws" brining it under the California Coporate Code.

The WT (Aledgedly) commited Fraud When Luis Contreres Signed and dated the document that changed the name to "the English congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses, Menlo Park California Inc." In this document it is stated that the board of directors has met and aqgreed to change the name.

The fraud occured because at the time and date that this document was signed, St. Clair and the Cobbs were listed as the Board of Directors with the Sec of State, not Brede Et. Al.

Brede's argument was that since they were no longer elders, then could not serve as the Board Of Directors. The problem is that there is no requirement in California Coporate code for the Board of Directors of a non-profit religious coporation to even be Jehovah's Witnesses. There fore they can only be removed by vote of the baptized publishers once every two years, or if they step down. Neither happend.

What does it all mean? The Jehovah's Witnesses of Menlo Park were robbed of their property, and their corporation. That is the real tragity.

Some other points:

I can confirm that the day the dismissal of the federal case was signed on a day that the judge was listed in the middle of a week long vacation on the court docket.

I can confirm that the plaintifs have been harrased by stupid and egar Ministerial Servants.

I can confirm that the plantifs had contacted several lawyers, but non would take the case for previously stated finantial reasons.

I can confirm that both John Steel and I have never been baptised, yet we are accused of apostacy which according to the WT is the same as calling us mentally ill. I view this as slander and defamation.

Thanks JV for finding these. I have not yet watched them, but I've herd that they were out there.

D_F

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A Time to Keep Quiet

by smithmandy1 in

a jehovah's witness was being ganged up on by a group of elder friends which made him commit suicide poor fella :-(.

http://www.youtube.com/user/atimetokeepquiet.

whoever did the videos put the telephone numbers of the elders in the desciption!!!

Devil_Fish

common tactic.

D_F

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Watchtower honors Jehovah's Witness Elders responsible for Candice Conti and Menlo Park Fiascos

by Balaamsass in

this weekend was the convention for the southern san francisco bay area.

it was held at the santa clara convention center in the silicon valley http://www.santaclara.org/conventioncenter/ which is an improvement over the old s.f.

cow palace which is still used..just not as much.

Devil_Fish

Balaamsass You have a PM.

D_F

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Has anyone heard of "Secret Disfellowshipping" by Jehovah's Witnesses? Menlo Park Ca. Congregation. Update.

by Balaamsass in

no doubt everyone has been following the juan viejo postings regarding the watchtower kingdom hall "grab" on jwn for the last couple of years.

called the mrs and me to say "wow- you have to google this" we did...came here to jwn ...became members..and the rest is history.. in the last nine months i have been calling and emailing contacts in the silicon valley for verification on the societies theft and forced sale of the menlo park kingdom hall (near the new facebook heaquarters) because the story seemed...a little far fetched.

every reliable contact i made has confirmed what juan reported.

Devil_Fish

There is much more to this case then meets the eye. Follow the money.

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Watchtower Argues on Behalf of Jimmy Swaggart

by 144001 in

the wtbts filed an amicus brief in the u.s. supreme court case of jimmy swaggart v. board of equalization of california, and actually argued that swaggart should win this case.

in response to numerious requests i have received, here it is: .

http://kvisit.com/snsujag.

Devil_Fish

"Every one of Jehovah's Witnesses is an active door-to-door minister, preaching the good news of God's Kingdom to willing listeners and offering printed sermons int he form of religious tracts, pamphleets, magazines, books and Bibles for a suggested nominal contribution."

"Unless they are convicted child molesters, in which case we have no responsibility."

WTBS

Devil_Fish

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