Posts by Alfred
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"You're going to die in Armageddon"
by Jules Saturn ini'm sure i am not the only one to have heard this come out of the mouths of my loved ones.
it's a very painful thing to hear, especially when it comes from the people like your own parents/family.
even after i've been told that, they would say "we'll just continue life without you.
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cleveland ohio convention results
by nowwhat? inof 3 in cleveland: avg.
attendance 7500 baptised 27 a robust growth of 0.38%!
not my convention so no details..
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Alfred
Yeah but that's because we're so close to the new world order.
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Study with an Elder - propose a question.
by CitizenofEarth inhello there.. as some of you might remember i am keeping my facade up by "studying" with an elder.
this study however is more of a session where i put hard questions about the org, doctrine and so on, on the table.
the time has come for the next session in a couple of days, and i have quite frankly lost the will to keep digging up things that just shouldn't be happening.
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Alfred
Ask him why none of the JW publications mention the book "The Even Tide" written in 1823 by English Bible prophecy speculator John Aquila Brown. This book is what started it all.
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I remember my Grandfather who was a CO saying;
by dogon ini was thinking of my co grandfather who passed on a few years ago.
his wife my grandmother passed on in 99. i can remember him saying "i know after armageddon i can not be married to her but maybe we can live next to each other.
not sure where the cult stands on this issue today.
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Alfred
In the mid 80's, I clearly remember a CO mentioning (at an informal lunch gathering) that he believed Armageddon survivors would get to keep their genitals, but resurrected ones may not have any genitals because they would be considered holy and have no use for these. WTF??? -
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This Story Says It All
by Lee Elder inthis story shows the sad reality of being a jw in a medical emergency, and how incredibly difficult it is to make an informed, free choice about medical care.
it also shows that for jw's, obeying watchtower leaders is more important than marriage or even the life of your child.
very sad indeed: http://lifestyle.inquirer.net/267054/religious-husband-dumped-saving-child/ .
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Alfred
"My daughter and I are not allowed to attend services anymore."
RED FLAG
This "story teller" didn't do her homework before making up this story.
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Who is benefiting from Watchtower Corporation financially
by John Davis inwho do you believe is financially benefiting from watchtower business dealings.
i know about the gold apple watch, but that is only a small percentage of the billions that they have.
so who do you think is keeping all of this money.
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Alfred
Londo... it was actually the GEICO gecko lizard who killed JFK in a jealous rage... he saw JFK smooching Marilyn the day before the Main Street parade. He couldn't stand it. Those pesky little lizards!
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Who is benefiting from Watchtower Corporation financially
by John Davis inwho do you believe is financially benefiting from watchtower business dealings.
i know about the gold apple watch, but that is only a small percentage of the billions that they have.
so who do you think is keeping all of this money.
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Alfred
Who benefits? Many people, but mainly Baron Benjamin Rothschild and Rothschild Continuation Holdings (a Swiss-registered holding company currently controlled by Baron David Rene de Rothschild). Hope this answers your question.
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Hello, fairly new, studying for around 7 months, just thought I would introduce myself.
by Conanthebeliever inhello everyone, i hope you are all ok. .
my name is conan, i am 25, and from the uk.
i have some brain damage, so i apologise in advance if my syntax is off or i go a long way around explaining things.
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Alfred
I'm glad that elders now allow JWs to listen to Satanic music... I especially love the song "Devil's Dance" by Metallica. -
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Nestor and Toni Kuilan in the works of a new book!
by A.proclaimer innestor and toni kuilan are writing a book of their memoirs surrounding their experience with the 1980 apostasy hunts.. .
read a little bit about it here:.
http://freeminds2.org/meet-nestor-and-toni-kuilan/.
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Alfred
I had the great pleasure of having them over my home about 2 years ago. I tried to convince them back then that they should share their story for the spanish speaking community... I'm glad they're finally doing it... very nice couple... can't wait for the book...
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Thanks and farewell...
by Alfred inhello all..... a few months ago my wife expressed serious concerns about the time i had spent over the past couple of years reading old watchtower literature (printed circa 1880 through the late 30s) and the time spent on this site and several others.
she is very grateful that i was very persistent in trying to convince her that this is just a mind-control cult run by clueless men who simply make things up as they go along.
it wasnt easy, but im thankful that i was able to wake her up thanks to many of you.
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Alfred
Hello all….
A few months ago my wife expressed serious concerns about the time I had spent over the past couple of years reading old Watchtower literature (printed circa 1880 through the late 30’s) and the time spent on this site and several others. She is very grateful that I was very persistent in trying to convince her that this is just a mind-control cult run by clueless men who simply make things up as they go along. It wasn’t easy, but I’m thankful that I was able to wake her up thanks to many of you. But now she’s worried that I may have lost some balance in my life… Having meditated about this over the past several weeks, I believe she may be right.
That being said, whenever she brought up these concerns, I would always respond that if I were ever able to identify at least one person who was able to finally exit the WT because of something I shared with them, then I would consider all of my research time well spent. Recently, much to my surprise, I received an email from someone thanking me for helping him make the leap out of the WT. I won’t get into the details of this email… suffice to say it’s the greatest feeling to know that thousands of hours of research were not in vain.
Regarding my time on this board, as part of a compromise, I also promised my wife that I would sign off permanently from this board upon helping at least one person or reaching 1,000 posts (in no particular order). At that point, I agreed that I would simply turn the page and we would both continue with our lives without looking back. (didn’t know I would get to 1,000 posts so quickly though)
So now it’s time to keep my promise to my wife… But before permanently signing off, I must say that I have the utmost respect for everyone on this board, especially those who have literally started thousands of very informative threads on all sorts of subjects. Your persistence in getting the message out is admirable and has helped me and others immensely. I owe my life to several of you who have helped me wake up from the deep dormancy that has kept me captive within the confines of this corrupt organization. Thank you so much!
By the way, I’ve reached post #1,000 having no other JW-related books to read or anything else to post (that hasn’t already been posted on this board several times over). But I will continue to search for answers to many questions I still have by reading some non-JW related books... For example, I’ve found extremely interesting insight in a book I’ve recently downloaded on my Kindle called Soul Theft… How Religions seized control of humanity’s spiritual nature by Bill Missett. While I don’t subscribe to everything written in this book, I’m only halfway through it and it’s already answered about half of my pending questions… can’t wait to finish reading it… (I strongly recommend it)
In closing, I sincerely hope that many more JWs benefit from your knowledge, insight and your willingness to share. Hopefully, I will continue to find many more opportunities to help others develop critical thinking skills that will steer them clear of dangerous cults or high-control religious groups. When these opportunities come along, as I’m sure they will, I will definitely take full advantage of these.
Thanks again… I wish everyone the very best!
Your friend
Alfred