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  WT Armageddon Logic

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  in doing some research, i recently ran across a september 1, 2000 wt article that contained a brother's testimony about his years of service in the organization.. he said, "as we arrived for the meeting one sunday in 1938, two elderly sisters greeted us, and one said: `young brother, have you taken your stand for jehovah yet?

  you know, armageddon is just around the corner!

  ' i knew that jehovah is the only true god, and i was convinced that this is his organization.

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  Twilight Zone

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  i just watched a rerun of the twilight zone episode where billy mumy played an omnipotent boy named anthony.. everyone had to pretend that anything he did was wonderful even if it terrified them.. they had to do anything to please him so as not to incur his wrath.. one guy got sick of it and told him off.. he begged the others to end the nightmare by killing the kid and thereby getting their lives back.. when they did nothing, the boy turned him into a jack-in-the-box and sent him into a cornfield.. the other adults were horrified, but smiled and told anthony it was a fine, fine thing that he just did.. when i saw it this time, it reminded me of how the wts functions.. the gb claims divine authority to run every aspect of jws' lives.. those who stand up to it are demonized and cast away.. the rest have to suppress any negative feelings and be "happified," lest they suffer the same fate..

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  How many did NOT get invited to the Memorial?

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  i didn't.. i must really be wicked....

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  Facebook Site

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  i ran across a facebook site entitled "ask a jehovah's witness anything.".

  it seems to be run by jw elders for jws and studies who are seeking information about "the truth.".

  they don't want apostates there or wt bashing.. i wonder if some people here would like to go to that site and ask questions.. of course, it would be easy to say stuff there that would get you banned.. i think the challenge would be to be respectful and see how long they will tolerate genuine questions.. i don't know how much follow-up they will allow.. of course, if you're fading, that's not a place to post.. .

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  WT Mantras / Thought Stoppers

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  i've been thinking about how the gb controls jws through the use of short phrases or scripture quotes (often partial quotes ripped out of context).. think of the sound-bite responses you know jws are going to give you in response to points you try to make to them.. ones that come to my mind immediately are:.

  -- "the light gets brighter and brighter.".

  -- "who, then, is the faithful and discreet slave?".

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  New Light on the Name Jehovah?

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  i've heard from two different sources today that the wt is making some announcement next week about a new understanding about the name jehovah?.

  has anyone else heard about this?.

  i can't imagine them tinkering with the name....

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  Believing It All EXCEPT...

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  i used to think that loyal jws bought into the wt teachings 100%.. that's certainly what the gb wants and expects and demands.. but then i encountered some jws who believe it all except for the opposition to higher education.. they think the gb is wrong about that, so all of the children are college educated.. others seem to believe it all but quietly celebrate family birthdays and various holidays.. these aren't people who are fading; they just ignore a few wt teachings that they don't like (despite the risks of being disciplined).. have you seen similar examples of active jws who are doing all the wt-approved stuff except for specific areas where they just ignore what the gb says is required?.

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  Faith v. Works

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  recently, i wanted to make sure i was being accurate about wt doctrine, so i read a number of wt articles about salvation.. i was surprised to see how many of them say that everlasting life is a gift based on the ransom sacrifice, that it can't be earned.. if you talk to a jw they may even quote this teaching.. yet if you try to tell a jw that the bible says the salvation comes by grace through faith, they immediately tell you that faith without works is dead and that you need to take in knowledge, obey god's laws, identify and join jehovah's organization, and for the rest of your life go door to door with the good news of jehovah's kingdom.. why do you think jws can't see the contradiction in all of this?.

  how can we get across to them that this doesn't make sense?.

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  Using the name Jehovah when praying

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  i know of number of jws who believe that if anyone doesn't address god as jehovah when praying that the prayer really goes to satan... especially if you pray to someone else (jesus, for example).. i haven't been able to find that specific teaching in wt literature.

  they do say that we are to pray only to jehovah, but i haven't been able to locate a publication that says the prayer really goes to satan if you don't.. is there such a reference?.

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  How Many JWs Are Confident They Are Worthy?

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  which jws do you think actually feel confident that they would survive armageddon if it came tomorrow?

  gb members?

  bethelites?

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