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  The Craziness of an Average Bible Study

  by Number 6 in

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  last week i posted a thread asking about who knew any "real anointed" and got some cracking replies.. that got me to thinking, as someone brought up in the 70's and 80's in the watchtower religion, my experience of bible studeis in their homes and those who made it to the hall were mostly batshit crazy or at least people with some serious quirks.. i'll relate a few, none of whose names i remember with any clarity.. in our cong we had an older couple who were from london, but who had been in the 1950's in the circuit work in the mid west usa.

  they brought along some woman one night they had started a study with who told everyone cheerfully she was a recovering alcoholic and this was her cure (coming to the meetings).

  this went on for a few weeks until one night they brought her to the memorial and she was royally pissed, and i mean barely able to stand; and went up to the platform table and necked some wine.

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  Ding

  What would really be shocking at a WT "home Bible study" would be actually studying the Bible...
  
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  Just a moan - regarding the latest trend in ignorance of the English language!

  by The Fall Guy in

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  in recent months i have noticed more and more people on the net (including here) are using this latest perversion of the english language -.

  "i would of done this..........or he would of tried to change things".

  it's would've - short for would have!.

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  Ding

  Several years ago, I had an opportunity to read a number of college papers on a particular subject.

  I was shocked by the number of college juniors and seniors who couldn't write a coherent paragraph.

  Some couldn't even write a coherent sentence.
  
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  Divorce/Terms of Agreement

  by SFSDGUY in

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  i'm a first time poster and i apologize if this topic has been discussed before.

  when i met my wife she was disfellowshiped and were happy, got married, and had a kid.

  after we had our daughter she got reinstated so her family and her jw "friends" could spend time with our daughter.

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  Ding

  The WT won't honor any non-estrangement clauses you put into a divorce decree.

  If you try to enforce it against your wife, she'll say, "I'm not doing anything but practicing freedom of religion and raising my daughter in the faith. I don't control what's said by the elders or from the platform."
  
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  Did You Know Any "Genuine"" Old School Anointed?

  by Number 6 in

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  growing up in scotland in the 1970s in scotland the anointed were few and far between, but we had one old dude in our cong who claimed to be one of the anointed.

  in the days when it was taken seriously.. i'd be curious how you viewed them.

  thing is, he wasn't an elder, or even a ministerial servant, just a plain old publisher.. but he was revered like he had a hotline to jesus.. the other week i was talking to a friend of similar age to me but who hung around the wt a lot longer than i did, and he just commented "oh him... he was a doddery old fool who used to just sit and piss himself.

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  Ding

  To me, one of the biggest non sequiturs in WT teaching is that it isn't important for the GB to know who the anointed remnant are.

  If they are so super spiritual that they have been designated by God to rule with Christ from heaven, their wisdom and counsel should be sought throughout the organization.

  Instead, anointed sisters have to be quiet and submit to the authority of any baptized male JW in good standing, no matter how young, how obnoxious, or how loony.
  
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  November 2019 Watchtower Study....Exaggeration at its finest

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  the watchtower—study edition | november 2019. lessons we can learn from the book of leviticus.

  16 satan and his world have done much to make the work of that faithful slave challenging, even impossible, to carry out from a human standpoint.

  despite two world wars, relentless persecution, global economic crises, and unjust treatment, the faithful and discreet slave has continued to provide spiritual food for christ’s followers on earth.

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  Two world wars, and it's all about them...
  
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  Email from JW relative/elder

  by Lynnie in

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  as much as i enjoy you and pete's company, you also know our understanding of how much we want you to be reunited with jehovah and his people.. .

  we did not set the standards for what jehovah says about our associations with those who choose to not serve him.

  so we will always be there for you and pete, but it is in your hands as to how we can enjoy your friendship.. .

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  "We love you but it's all your fault."
  
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  Stupid armageddon false alarms

  by purrpurr in

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  when i was 5/6 i remember being in the car with my jw mom and a jw sister.

  they noticed a yellow ish glowing cloud in the sky which really freaked them out and they both declared that it must be a sign that armageddon was here!

  they then spent the whole car trip declaring that the police and army were about to come and round up all of us.

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  On another thread, I listed a compendium of WT Armageddon-is-almost-here quotes going back over 100 years.

  Of course, most JWs are unaware of all that.

  Even if they learned about it, most of them would say, "The GB doesn't claim to be infallible or perfect."

  JWs remind me of Charlie Brown. They're SURE this time Lucy won't pull the football away from them at the last second.

  It's one thing to get conned and buy the Brooklyn bridge.

  It's quite another to buy the Brooklyn bridge from the same guy 20 times, each time being sure it's the real deal.
  
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  local, strange jw thinking

  by lancelink in

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  i was reading today that the last star wars movie will be playing next week.

  doing a little searching, i found that there have been 12 movies in the saga total, ( box office, total (12 films): $9.323 billion.)..

  it got me thinking about when the empire strikes back came out, it was the second movie ( 1980).

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  Ding

  "I love that 1968 quote. They can't even read their own comments?"

  They never apply their own comments to themselves.

  It's like when they say, "No one should be forced to choose between his religion and his family."

  They really don't see the hypocrisy and the double standards.
  
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  venting: My wife is the most dangerous kind of JW

  by goingthruthemotions in

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  i need to vent again here.

  because i have no one else to talk with and no one who really understands except for the people here.

  my wife is the most dangerous kind of jw.

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  Ding

  When a JW tells me they engage in critical thinking, I ask, "Great! Tell me one thing the WT organization currently teaches that you disagree with."

  Crickets...
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  local, strange jw thinking

  by lancelink in

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  i was reading today that the last star wars movie will be playing next week.

  doing a little searching, i found that there have been 12 movies in the saga total, ( box office, total (12 films): $9.323 billion.)..

  it got me thinking about when the empire strikes back came out, it was the second movie ( 1980).

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  Ding

  The next time a JW tells you how close Armageddon is, show him or her this compendium.

  1915 "The present great war in Europe is the beginning of the Armageddon of the Scriptures (Rev 19:16-20). It will eventuate in the complete overthrow of all the systems of error which have so long oppressed the people of God and deluded the world. We believe the present war cannot last much longer until revolutions shall break out" (C.T. Russell, Pastor Russell's Sermons, p. 676, Sometime during World War I)

  1938 ...mark the words of Jesus, which definitely seem to discourage the bearing of children immediately before or during Armageddon .. It would therefore appear that there is no reasonable or scriptural injunction to bring children into the world immediately before Armageddon, where we now are." {WT Nov 1 1938 324}

  
  1941 "Receiving the gift, [Rutherford's book, Children] the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon." (Watchtower Sept. 15, 1941, p. 288)

  
  1942 "Now, with Armageddon immediately before us, it is a matter of life or destruction. Those who would be of the Lord’s other sheep that shall compose the great multitude of Armageddon survivors and live joyfully on earth forever must find the answer to a very personal question, and very important." (Watchtower, April 1, 1942, p. 139)

  
  1946 "the disaster of Armageddon, greater than that which befell Sodom and Gomorrah, is at the door." (Let God Be True, 1946, p. 194)

  
  1955 "in the light of the fulfillment of Bible prophecy it is becoming clear that the war of Armageddon is nearing its breaking-out point." (You May Survive Armageddon into God’s New World, 1955, p 331)

  
  1968 "The immediate future is certain to be filled with climatic events, for this old system is nearing its complete end. Within a few years at most the final parts of Bible prophecy relative to these last days will undergo fulfillment resulting in the liberation of surviving mankind into Christ's glorious 1000 year reign!" (Watchtower, 1/5/1968)

  
  1968 "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an 'end' to the world, even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The 'end' did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? Missing from such people were God's truths and the evidence that He was using and guiding them. .. But what about today? Today we have the evidence required, all of it. And it is overwhelming! All the many, many parts of the great sign of the last days are here, together with verifying Bible chronology." {Awake Oct 8 1968 23}

  
  1969 "If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. {Awake May 22 1969 15}}

  
  1969 "in view of the short time left, a decision to pursue a career in this system of things is not only unwise but extremely dangerous....Many young brothers and sisters were offered scholarship or employment that promised fine pay. However, they turned them down and put spiritual interests first." (Kingdom Ministry, June 1969, p. 3)

  
  1974 "Yes, the end of this system is so very near! Is that not reason to increase our activity?...Reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and planning to finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service. Certainly this is a fine way to spend the short time remaining before the wicked world's end." (Kingdom Ministry, May 1974, p. 3)

  
  1980 "If the wicked system of this world survived until the turn of the century, which is highly improbable in view of world trends and the fulfillment of Bible prophecy, there would still be survivors of the World War I generation. However, the fact that their number is dwindling is one more indication that 'the conclusion of the system of things' is moving fast toward its end." {WT Oct 15 1980 31}

  
  1984 Some of that "generation (of 1914)" could survive until the end of the century. But there are many indications that "the end" is much closer than that! (The Watchtower, March 1, 1984 pp. 18-19)