It's sad when you read a post that might as well have been cut and pasted from the Reasoning book.
No original thinking at all.
Just parroting the company line.
Posts by Ding
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17Christmas and the name jehovah
by nowwhat? infor the same reasons jw's reject christmas they use the name jehovah.. dec 25 is the recognized day to celebrate the birth of christ in the world.- we use jehovah because it is the recognized name of the father in the world.. it dishonors jesus because we don't know the actual date of jesus birth- even though we don't know the actual pronouncing of gods name it brings honor to god to use it.
even though the angels rejoiced at the birth of jesus, no where in the bible does it say we should celebrate it.
even though no where in the bible does it say christians are to be witnesses of jehovah, we proudly bear his name!.
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The Gospel According to Jehovah's Witnesses
by Vanderhoven7 inmark jones explains the watchtower gospel much better than i can.. "the good news that christians in the first century preached was the birth, death and resurrection of jesus christ; that all those who believed in him were saved and reconciled to god through the death of his son.. unfortunately jehovah’s witnesses) have been led to believe it is something bizarrely different.
the good news according to the watchtower society is as follows:.
the the good news (according to jehovah’s witnesses).
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Ding
In addition, people who are fortunate enough to make it into Jesus' 1000 year reign over the earth will have to clean up the carnage of Armageddon.
They will also have to reach moral perfection by the end of the 1000 years and pass a final test by Satan. If not, Jehovah will annihilate them.
Even after they pass the "final test," they (like Adam in Eden) will always still be capable of choosing to disobey Jehovah in some way. If they do, Jehovah will annihilate them.
So trying to attain to perfection and knowing that there will never be a point at which their salvation is 100% secure is what the Watchtower calls "paradise."
--Source, Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God
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why celebrate xmas?
by enoughisenough inmany on here are ex jw....they have left the jws because of coming to find out the many false indoctrinations.
one of the things learned as a jw is that there isn't anything true about xmas being the birth of jesus.
( matt chapter 2 tells a whole different narrative about the baby jesus than what is portrayed by the christian churches) they learn the ways that are celebrated are pagan practices jesus told the samaritan woman that god wanted to be worshipped in spirit and it truth.
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Ding
Given that Romans 14 says that it's up to the individual what days to celebrate or not celebrate, I never could understand why the WT made such a big deal about holidays, including Christmas.
Now I understand that it's all about a much larger program of thought and behavior control.
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Why do Jehovah's Witnesses attend so many meeting?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inronald curzan ( helper to the teaching committee ) gives a talk on the real reasons jehovah's witnesses should attend meetings.
it looks like the zoom meetings have softened up many witnesses.
many are probably turning off their cameras and zoning out.
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Ding
Unfortunately, the local KH parking lot was full on Sunday...
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
by Godlyman inif anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
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The Governing Body says they are the faithful and discreet slave.
How do we know that's true?
Because the Governing Body says so, and they are the faithful and discreet slave.
Don't you just love circular reasoning?
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Tony & JW made it to Norweigian media - even a pic of "dat broadcast"
by Festus inwell well am3 made it to norweigian media with hsi rant about religouse persecution.. hereis the link.. share your thoughts.. ble nektet statstøtte: jehovas vitner vurderer juridiske skritt – vårt land (vl.no) .
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"Humility" isn't a word I associate with the GB, despite their claims.
They think our salvation depends on how we treat them and the rest of the "anointed."
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Watchtower looses Norwegian Appeal
by Diogenesister inwatchtower has just lost its appeal in the norwegian courts over the withdrawal of the funding it receives from the government as an officially recognised religion.
the initial decision will now stand due to what the court termed 'exclusionary practices' which includes the witnesses barbaric practice of shunning minors, even by family members in their own homes.
the ministry of children and families have decided they are now no longer eligible for the state grant of 16 million norwegian kroner given to officially recognised religions.. the following is a statement has been issued, i have summarised if it isn't readable: .
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Ding
Follow the money...
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
by Godlyman inif anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
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<< Rutherford was noted to have said afterward about his own predictions of 1925 as FDS: “I know I made an ass of myself”- WT-10/1/1984- pg.24. >>
That didn't seem to deter him.
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Can you answer my questions, please?
by Sandie ini have three questions.
i would be most grateful if someone could respond for me, please.
thank you.. 1. can jehovah's witnesses practice faith with the bible as a guide, or is it crucial to include the teachings of the watchtower society?
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Ding
I want to clarify that I don't agree with the WT teachings in any of the three areas -- the importance of organization, the nature of Christ, or lack of assurance of salvation.
My comments above are in response to the questions in the OP as to why JWs believe as they do in these areas.
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Can you answer my questions, please?
by Sandie ini have three questions.
i would be most grateful if someone could respond for me, please.
thank you.. 1. can jehovah's witnesses practice faith with the bible as a guide, or is it crucial to include the teachings of the watchtower society?
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Ding
1. JWs must believe the teachings of the WT because the Governing Body claims it is the only one that can properly interpret the Bible. It claims to be the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matthew 24:45, appointed by Jesus to give his true followers spiritual "meat in due season."
2. The WT cites several passages against the deity of Christ. For example, in John 17:3 he himself calls the Father "the only true God." They cite the subordination passages, such as John 14:28, which show the Father's positional superiority over the Son. They note that Colossians 1:15 calls Jesus the "firstborn of all creation," which the WT says means that he was the first thing Jehovah created. They also note that Jesus died and ask, "If Jesus is God, who ran the universe for 3 days when he was dead."
As Vanderhoven said, this topic merits a thread of its own. In fact, entire books have been written on this topic.
3. Non-anointed JWs (the great crowd of other sheep) have no assurance of salvation since they believe their salvation depends on their faithfulness to Jehovah and his organization. Even after the end of the Millennial Kingdom and even if they pass the "final test" by Satan, if they sin willingly (as Adam did), Jehovah will annihilate them. So their salvation will never be 100% secure.
It's different for the anointed 144,000 after they die because they will go to heaven and receive spirit bodies, so they will no longer be subject to temptation. Until they die, though, they could still forfeit their salvation if they are unfaithful.