Posts by Ding

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Does Anybody Here Pray To God?

by minimus in

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friends

i’m just curious..

What does the Watchtower Society's History of Prophetic Speculation Prove?

by Vanderhoven7 in

question: what does the watchtower society's history of prophetic speculation prove?.

how would you respond to this answer provided by paul coom... yesterday on quora?.

"our organization has never been a prophetic speculator.

Ding

"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. The Great and Powerful Oz has spoken!"

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Converted Greek Philosopher Explains Christianity in 125 AD

by Sea Breeze in

i ran across a pretty early treatise.

we were all taught that "real" christianity was lost to history and was only restored once russell and then rutherford restored it so that the wt could be appointed as god's "mouthpiece".

but, aristides wrote to the emperor hadrian and gave a pretty good synopsis of core christian belief in 125 ad.

Ding

Nothing about calling God "Jehovah" and going door to door inviting people to come to God's organization for salvation?

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Governing Body; Villians or just Deluded?

by pistolpete in

are you sometimes dumbfounded at the direction the governing body takes?.

thousands of documents proving 607 bce is wrong, yet the gb sticks to the date, why?.

the generation that would not die, yet they continue by introducing an overlapping generation.. disfellowshipping at a time when everyone is leaving, not a good idea, yet they continue to disfellowship.. here is a video that addresses these questions.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbgeqhp9o9i.

Ding

In Crisis of Conscience, Ray Franz expressed the opinion that they really believe it -- victims of victims.

As the evidence grows against the WT positions, that becomes harder and harder to believe, but confirmation bias and the desire to be someone important are powerful blinders.

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Do You Know Of Anyone That Has Seen A Therapist Because Of Being A Witness?

by minimus in

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friends

i really don’t know of many people who got into therapy because of their jw dealings but i would think that if someone remains depressed or severely affected by their past witness life, it’s not a bad idea to speak to someone to get you on the right path.

i think this site has been very therapeutic for many over the years..

Ding

I think the real challenge would be to find a therapist that understands how cults operate and how they affect a person's mind, will, and emotions.

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Has anyone still in or otherwise heard anything about JWs think we only have 12 months before Armageddon?

by blablabluh in

i’ve noticed a change in family attitude recently, like there is just something extra on their mind.

i even had to call my brother to check if he was dying and too scared to tell me.

anyway, i saw a video last night my saying jws think we only have 12 months left before armageddon so thought maybe this is the reason for changes attitude.

Ding

When Armageddon doesn't come within 12 months, they will immediately forget that they thought it would.

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Will Jehovah’s Witnesses Go Back To Normal Activities?

by minimus in

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most every state has a plan to get back to normalcy.

many countries also are ready to get their citizens on the road to recovery.. where does this leave the witnesses?

will they ever go back to house to house ministry?

Ding

Aren't they just rehashing Fred Franz as modified by the overlapping generation and the GB = FDS teachings?

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List of Critical WTS Teachings

by Vanderhoven7 in

i sent a list of statements about current wts teachings to a friend who is being carefully recruited by a seasoned witness.. hi em..... just a quick summary of what all “good” jehovah's witnesses believe...even though some of these things witnesses are not always willing to be transparent about.

this is your crash course.

i have quotations for every item listed if you want or need them.. witnesses believes that:.

Ding

If they had laid that out for me in my living room on their first visit the way you have done it here, my total "study" with them would have lasted less than 15 minutes.

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J Dublethink

by LoveUniHateExams in

i'm just thinking of examples of jw doublethink.. here's one - jws will tell a bible study or unbaptised publisher that there is no hierarchy within the org.

they typically remark on christendom's hierarchy but then say 'we are all brothers'.

but as a person gets further into the cult, jws will constantly stress the need to obey the governing body.. jw hierarchy .

Ding

They really believe they are not following men.

In reality, the whole JW religion is about following a small group of men without question.

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Remember how it felt before you woke up. Living forever in a Righteous World.

by pistolpete in

i woke up early in life.

it’s not because i was smarter than my brothers and sisters.

in fact, reflecting back, i actually don’t know why i didn’t embrace the watchtower teachings?

Ding

The thought of a paradise earth can be comforting, but how many JWs are secretly fearful (or even convinced) that they won't be deemed worthy enough to be there?

How many JWs are terrified whenever they hear distant thunder for fear that it's the beginning of Armageddon and that they will be among those who are destroyed?

No matter how much a JW tries to be as loyal to Jehovah as Jesus was, they know they don't measure up.