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  Ever wonder how to be "saved" as a JW?

  by sir82 in

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  2. beliefs

  i was searching for something on the wt online library, and was struck by all the requirements a jw has in order to be "saved".. want to see a partial list?

  all these found by searching for "salvation depends" on wol.

  just do all 26 things, and you too can be saved!.

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  “Your attitude toward the wheatlike anointed ‘brothers’ of Christ and the treatment you accord them will be the determining factor as to whether you go into “everlasting cutting-off” or receive ‘everlasting life.’” (WT, 8/1/81, p. 26)

  “Just as the anointed ‘branches’ of the ‘true vine’ must remain in union with Christ, the ‘other sheep’ must remain in close union with ‘the faithful and discreet slave,’ Christ’s anointed ‘brothers.’ Only thus can they hope to ‘inherit the Kingdom prepared for them from the founding of the world.’” (WT, 8/15/83, p. 23)
  
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  Find the Beatles Songs in the Picture

  by Simon in

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  2. entertainment

  some light entertainment ... there are apparently 39 beatles songs hidden in the picture, but depending on how to interpret some of them you may come up with more.. please post one each, to give everyone a go, and describe where the song is in the picture (so it's not just coming up with a list of beatles songs).

  also, check for existing answers - i'll post summaries to show the ones already identified.. .

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  I Am the Walrus (front right of picture)
  
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  Are We Living In The Last Days?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. beliefs

  just received this note out of the blue from a pimi jw.

  how would you respond?.

  hi vander,.

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  Ding

  I love 1234's answer!

  If you want to give a serious reply, you might say, "That list probably describes all of human history. Maybe the point was simply to remind us to look forward to something better, not to get us speculating about dates. So far, everyone's predictions of the end have been wrong, including those of the Watchtower."
  
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  Are We Living In The Last Days?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just received this note out of the blue from a pimi jw.

  how would you respond?.

  hi vander,.

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  Ding

  I might reply, "What are you going to tell me when this virus runs its course and the end hasn't come?"

  Or perhaps, "What are you talking about? The end came in 1975 just as Brother Fred Franz told us it would."
  
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  WT study April 5 - how uplifting! How happifying! How encouraging!

  by sir82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for you poor saps unfortunate enough to have missed yesterday's zoom watchtower study, i thought i'd prepare a little summary for you.. in fact, to keep things really short, i'll just highlight the outstanding verbs from the article.. paragraph 2: do not view.

  paragraph 4: think seriously about the warning.....partake unworthily.

  paragraph 5: do not feel...does not give....do not feel....would never tell.

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  Ding

  "We want everyone to come to the meal we have prepared, but DON'T eat or drink anything when you get there."

  If this makes sense to you, you might just be in a cult...
  
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  Do you have any evidence that the GB had bad intent?

  by AlainAlam in

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  do you have any evidence that the gb had bad intent?

  as opposed to blind faith/cognitive dissonance and honest mistakes.. i'm inclined to think they have the best of intentions and are just wrong (primarily because the bible is wrong), but i'm willing to consider the evidence otherwise..

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  Ding

  What about the overlapping generations nonsense?

  Do you think the GB themselves believe this is really what Jesus was talking about?

  If not, instead of honestly admitting that the critical 1914 teaching is wrong, they're keeping the whole false system going by obfuscation.

  Sounds like "bad intent" to me unless convincing oneself that the ends justify the means is "good intent."
  
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  Great Trib is Starting!

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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  2. friends

  just received a text yesterday...lovebombing to return with so called proof of the gt starting...scaremongering at its peak!.

  "hey.

  missing you at the meetings.

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  Nothing like a major crisis to scare people back in line...
  
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  Testing For Transparency - An Honesty Check

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. beliefs

  please share any other yes/no questions that might fit with the following 10. also feel free to critique the 10 listed.. testing for transparency.

  there are some facts that jehovah's witnesses are reticent to divulge to new prospects.

  you may want to find out very early in your discussions if the witnesses you are studying with are open and truthful about their organization's doctrine and practices by asking them a series of sensitive (potentially embarrassing) questions about their personal beliefs.

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  How do you know that what you are being taught as truth today won't be dismissed as "old light" next month?

  Does that uncertainty trouble you at all?
  
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  The memorial-buffet style

  by lastmanstanding in

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  2. beliefs

  i was being silly at home and suggested this to family.

  you know, put the wine and crackers on a table and everyone cycle through and touch the idols followed by a hand wipe sheet.. ...and then i thought, that’s what the catholics do, buffet style!.

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  Ding

  Since almost no one partakes of anything at the Memorial, why have anyone present at all?

  Those who want their indoctrination can listen to previous talks (they're all the same) online.
  
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  Why the change?

  by Fadeaway1962 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  possible cancelling the memorial after years of experiences of bro/sis under nazi , communist oppression and many other countries still conducting the memorial under threat of death that the governing body is listening to the superior authorities regarding this virus pandemic.. could it be that after taking control of the k/halls that the branch/governing body would be responsible for any disobedience to the civil authorities and liable for any deaths.. they would have left upto the local body of elders and encouraged obedience to god rather than men and a lack of faith in jehovah to protect his people..

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  Ding

  The might as well put it online.

  Almost no one partakes anyway.