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  How old is old?

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  having a conversation with a pimi elder and i asked him how he deals with the fact that he never expected to get old.

  i get the feeling that some dubs still have the original generation explanation hard-wired, even though they claim to accept the new version.

  so my question is, how old do you have to be to be considered old?

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  Now that generations overlap, so do years.
  
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  Jehovah's house for Sale?

  by JohnTron72 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  when i drive by the kingdom hall i grew up attending at but, was sold directly to a church, i get angry.

  the elders who handled the sale didn't even remove the watchtower shaped bricks on each side of the sign near the street so, now they advertise for a baptist church.

  how many times as i grew up i heard things like: you should not do work ( such as clean carpets for a church) you wouldn't want to work at a cigarette making plant or a facility that makes bombs for the military.

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  Remember the most important commandment of the WT religion: Never question anything the "faithful and discreet slave" says or does or you are engaging in "apostate thinking."
  
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  "Do Religions Today Feed or Fleece The Flock?" March 22, 1988

  by days of future passed in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i pulled this magazine out of a box of "never placed and never will be" from the 1980's and 90's.

  of course it is hypocritical (like most articles) but especially now since the jw religion has their own channel.. it is an article about tele evangelists - the four prominent ones.

  it takes up 3 1/2 pages and it is full of the misdeeds and greed of these preachers.

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  The WT never seems to apply its principles to itself...
  
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  Besides Everlasting Life What Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Offer To Anyone?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been thinking... why would anyone want to join the religion or actually stay in the organization.

  i understand that people don’t want to lose their loving family and dear friends so some stay in.

  but what does anyone really ever get because they are jehovah’s witnesses??.

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  Public speaking and salesmanship training
  
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  My JW mom tried telling me this

  by Jayk in

  1. social
  2. family

  going thru a bit of a life situation right now... i should have listened to a few of your a couple months ago.

  this girl i was seeing has completely stopped talking to me as of 2 weeks ago.

  she springs on me she is pregnant possibly a abortion, but would consider adoption or sever the rights.

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  All your mom knows to say is what the WT has programmed her to say...
  
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  2019-11-10-Leaving Her Faith, Gaining Her Freedom-Shunning Article!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  scroll slowly after download and give the file time to appear.

  newspaper article on shunning.. 2019-11-10. leaving her faith gaining her freedom--usa today and postcrescent.

  https://docdro.id/rrqebdl.

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  "...no one is required to cut off contact with them."

  Theocratic war strategy = justified lying.

  If shunning is required by the Bible, why lie about it?
  
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  2020 Memorial Talk Outline!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2020 memorial talk outline.. https://docdro.id/73bh2yg.

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  petra!.

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  Are all Memorial talks pretty much the same?

  Two classes.

  Only anointed partake.

  Armageddon is just around the corner.

  Obey the faithful and discreet slave.
  
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  The internal conundrum of opposing ideologies with the Jehovah's Witnesses religion.

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one might look at the jws in two engaging parts, one part being the activity orchestrated by the top men who create the doctrines which get printed out into many pieces of literature the wts publishes, call it dogma if you will.. the other might be long extenuating rules of conduct of behavior the wts enforces and regulates to its following devoted members in an all out effort to make the organization the most righteous and clean among all other christian based organizations.. the doctrines created by the top leaders of the wts have put forth many doctrines which weren't particularly bible supported, one could even say they were apostate in their expressive originality.. pushing the theology that jesus has returned and has taken to his heavenly throne as of 1914 thereby proclaiming that mankind is living in the last days or "this generation" spoken about in the bible was propagated by the wts for over 100 years now, going as far back as the late 1800's.. there has been a major effort by the organization's leaders from the top down to watch for any behavior by the adjoined members that would ruin the over all righteous image of the organization.

  personal appearance is closely watched and monitored, social behavioral activities on various matters are also closely monitored over the avowed members.. there is so much scrutiny going on over the members and critical judgments being imposed on a personal level to the members but what about the very doctrines to which these members are to uphold 100 % less they be punished for openly investigating and being critical of ?.

  it seems the men at the top have the control over the doctrines they make and also the power to kick out and condemn anyone who honestly investigates these doctrines to their honesty and viability .

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  When you think about it, so much of the WT's troubles are self-inflicted.

  When Jesus didn't show up in 1874 or 1914, they should have quit setting dates. Instead, they set more and more of them.

  They tied themselves down to the end having to come within the lifetime of the 1914 generation. They kept redefining "generation" until now no one understands what they think it means.

  After lambasting the Roman Catholic church for covering up pedophilia by priests, they have engaged in a far more extensive cover-up of pedophilia by JWs.

  The WT destroys families by its shunning policies, and these are families of their own people, not outsiders.
  

  The list goes on and on.
  
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  How Much of the WT Teaching Did You Believe?

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some people on this forum have said that they never really believed any aspect of wt teaching, that they couldn't wait to get free of it all.. others seems to have been really gung ho, believing it all until something happened that got you questioning "the truth.".

  i would say my own high water mark was about 50%, which put me squarely on the fence, trying to decide if i should be in or out.. how about you?.

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  Some people on this forum have said that they never really believed any aspect of WT teaching, that they couldn't wait to get free of it all.

  Others seems to have been really gung ho, believing it all until something happened that got you questioning "the truth."

  I would say my own high water mark was about 50%, which put me squarely on the fence, trying to decide if I should be in or out.

  How about you?
  
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  Overlapping Generation

  by pandorasbox1914 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.

  his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .

  no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.

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  Splane's s-t-r-e-t-c-h-i-n-g o-f t-h-e 1-9-1-4 g-e-n-e-r-a-t-i-o-n reminds me of the infamous photo of Nixon's secretary, Rose Mary Woods, demonstrating how she "accidentally" erased 18 1/2 minutes of a key Watergate tape.