Pure Propaganda! ... Definition -------->
"information that is designed to mislead or
persuade. Advertising, brainwashing, disinformation,
hogwash, hype, indoctrintion, newspeak, promotion,
proselytism, publicity"
clarity
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july 2014 - conyers assembly hall party and dancing for the.... play the video!.
petra.
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Pure Propaganda! ... Definition -------->
"information that is designed to mislead or
persuade. Advertising, brainwashing, disinformation,
hogwash, hype, indoctrintion, newspeak, promotion,
proselytism, publicity"
clarity
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my son and i were discussing this yesterday over coffee.
since the wt society in previous years virtually demonized going on the internet at all for jw's - now wt leaders are doing a complete turn around or about face probably so as to " compete " or keep up with all the anti-jw websites that are out there to give the wt society point of view.. however- it very well may backfire on them as once people start doing google searches looking for jw.org it will bring up all the other websites dealing with any jw issues and in the privacy of their own homes out of curiosity i'm sure lots of jw's are going to want to check out some of these sites to see what all the " apostate " hoopla is all about.
i wonder how many jw's will do this and will it have an effect in opening more minds to other views ?
Flipper.... hi,
Ahhh a good morning to all.....at the very
least I smell a new song book to make everything
all fit together once again...... how the heck are
they going to sing "WE'RE Jehova sss...wit..nes..sess"
when that gets dropped! Have to start thinkin up
how to rhyme ....JW.ORG with something?????hmmm
hahah
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Will it harm them ....if it does, the R&F will be oblivious!
As long as they have their social club with the instant "friends"
that is all that matters!
Many of the older generation will stay even if they see thru it,
after all at their age .....what else is there???? (I say this with
a bit of tongue in cheek!) :-)
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There will be a stronger undercurrent of wide awake
exjw's who will advocate & expose watchtower for the
damaging cult that it is .... and take measures for change!
clarity
not sure if this has been mentioned on this board yet, but i just heard from a fairly reliable source that the annual meeting will discuss, among other things, major changes in the 'bible teach' book.
has anyone else heard this??.
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Congregations should continue to request What Does the Bible Really Teach? and “Keep Yourselves in God’s Love” to maintain a modest supply at the Kingdom Hall. This will assist in reducing existing stock at the branch office before the revisions are released
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Oh.....and by the way.....just keep on using this
wrong crap ('cause it is all crap anyway) because
we need to get as much money out of this old stuff
as we can! ... Yes........even if it's wrong!!!!
clarity
i study religions.
i never call new world religons cults.
until they become like heavsn gate etc.. the jw religions is setting itself u for this.
Thanks for posting this very interesting thread HTBWC!
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Wow, fertile minds at work here .... some new ideas
for me. Funny how we can have an underlying 'feeling'
but just cannot put words to it!
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Ocean1111 ... amazed at how you lay out the wt senario,
thank you. Your take on this "hidden in plain sight" deal,
just makes those little doors in the mind spring wide open!
Hope you don't mind me sharing these ideas, they explain a lot!
clarity
someting happened yesterday that i thought might be noteworty enough to relate to you here.. mrs. eyz and i were invited to my new boss's home for his annual end of summer party.
it's a pretty big deal....his is a name known locally (i'll call him j.r.) a really nice interesting guy who's held a number of high level and politically connected jobs.
there was to be music, dancing, wine and reprotedly lots of well dressed, well educated, well to do and influential people (oh yes...and us) in attendance.. anyway we thought we'd make an occasion out of it and got ourselves spiffed up which involved new outfits and extra mirror time before we left home.
Hey eyz....just saw your terrific post!!! A fine example
of taking care of business. ha ha luv it!
It does take a few years out, to clear your mind of 'them'
calling all the shots. Congratulations for taking control of
how you wanted that conversation to go... it feels so edifying.
clarity
my husband and i were both born ins.
i left in 2009, and he followed me out a bit later.
we were one of those couples who followed the script, married young and ended up having nothing in common other than the religion.
Pink, if you had no dependent children, that
would be one thing.......but you do, 4 of them!
Whatever the situation is with your hubby, sit
down and think.
Do you really imagine that what you have right
now....all the care, work, worry, & expense will
somehow be eased if you are out there alone,
with no money coming in! No father at all in the
house! No one else there for the kids...just you?
Think...what are you setting these kids up for?
Do you think for a moment that some other "nicer"
man will jump at the chance to shoulder all these
responsibilities?
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Plse get some outside counselling & help before
you go any further.
clarity
so tonight just sucks ad i just want to vent to people who don't know me irl.. my wife and i have two kids.
i was still in when we got together but my wife never was.
when we actually got married i moved out of my parents place and never went back to a kingdom hall again.
Backformore...hello, ...while I understand babyfever,
I think you may be in denial of your reality.
Facts are hard to accept sometimes, especially when
it points to a loss of youth. It might not be a case of
losing out on another child!
A couple of facts that you have given us, is that
you do have two lovely healthy children already and.....
"I have been diagnosed with type 1 diabetes, celiac disease, and renal failure. My wife had breast cancer at 30"
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Your decision of course........... only my 2 cents!
clarity
well my wife and i have been through a roller coaster of life since i convinced her the dibs werent the truth.
the hardest tests have been lived but we are closer than ever now.
now recently shes read "the shack" nd watched some movies about god and just cant seem to inderstand why god would allow all of this suffering just to prove to satan that hes "the man" (or woman).
This is a hot issue with many people.....wt says
god has to prove (by our worship etc) that he is
the true/supreme god...... or else what would all
those angels think of him, if he just obliterated A&E
or that bright angel in the garden.
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Well, ...after setting man kind right back to just 8
people, by flooding the earth & killing everything he
could........he has sat back & watched generations
(millions & millions) of people & babies & animals
suffer in agony, beaten, raped, sickend with
horrendous diseases, blinded, deaf & speachless
a n d t h a t is O K????????????????? with him!!
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What......pray tell, do all the myriads of angels
think of him now! After they look at the legacy
of death he has instituted on mankind????
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Or ....does god not exist, and it is up to each and
everyone of us to make this earth a wonderful
place to live.
clarity
my brother (non-jw but became a christian 6 months ago) and i nursed my aged jw mother back to a semblance of strength over the last three weeks.. the elders were happy to pass the buck on to me, her da'd daughter and my bro.. he has been living with her for 3 months and has transformed her ill-kept home and garden and literally nursed her like a professional alone.
before i stepped in to help him care for her.
he repeatedly told her how much he loved her and was so caring, it brought a lump to my throat.. he has been going to church sunday mornings, telling her he 'was meeting up with friends' so as not to cause friction.but she knew where he had been.. we noticed a shift in her demeanour towards us (she knows i'm a church-goer) over the week-end and she started to.
Dear Abba & your Dear Brother, so sorry this
has happened to you both. Take very good care
of one another.
This farcical religion has ruined the wholesome
atmosphere that should exist in families.
They have stolen loyalties that would have
naturally existed between family & friends...
and sucked it all up ......for themselves!
Watchtower leaders should all be arrested
and thrown in jail ... for keeps this time!
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My heart goes out to you both and to all
those suffering under this rule of buffoons
and all their made-up "laws"!
clarity
due to the fact there are about 27,000 members of this religion that are known pedophiles, and the information about it is kept in a secret database file, i wonder how many lurking jw's as well as others are aware of the severity of this problem?
remember, it's 27,000 pedophiles that they know about.
what about the thousands that don't get caught?
No I didn't flipper. The only reason I even
found out about this was a "momentary
spilling of the beans" Actually told all their
names ...but darn they were reeled off so fast
my brain couldn't grasp them! I did try to find
out info on the one who went to jail ..newspaper,
google etc, but no luck. This went back about
15 yrs ago I'm guessing!
The one telling this was reassured tho (ya rite!)
that because he was sent to jail, that was that..
and every one was good again after that!!!!!!!!!
Lesson learned ......huh? So deluded!
clarity