Posts by ABibleStudent

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So done with expectations and waiting for 'when it happens'...

by Bruja-del-Sol in

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ok, i haven't introduced myself properly.

sorry for that, but i just never feel like i've got something really interesting to say.

so i rather respond on topics of other people.

ABibleStudent

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Bruja-del-Sol! Dreams are good, but only if you live in and for the present. It seems like you have had some important revelations on your own. If you can afford to talk with a counselor, it may help you to disover more WTBTS phobias that you may be carring.

If you want to help your husband understand more how you feel, I would recommend that he watch the following videos: Strategic Interactive Approach explained 2003 (1:23:23) and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIDwXYACfmM&list=PL4092CCAFD7966428

What do you like to do? Have you searched the internet for activities where you currently live to meet locals who have similar interests as you and who may speak english? Do you know about www.meetup.com or http://ex-jehovahs-witnesses.meetup.com/? Unfortunately, their are no ex-JW meetup groups in Spain, but you could always start one.

Your written English is very good. Have you enrolled in Spanish classes at a local school or asked local school teachers, if you can help them teach English to Spanish students?

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

9

They're everywhere these days!!

by scotinsw in

just spotted witnesses handing out brochures like they were going out of fashion this afternoon.

this was at oxford circus in london (one of the busiest shopping areas of london).

they were actually getting in the way and had boxes of the rubbish!!.

ABibleStudent

Hi scotinsw, Do you want to have some fun?

Next time take a Sharpie (or make up labels in advance with a URL barcode). Start talking to the JWs. After they ask to give you a phamplet, ask them if they will accept valuable information in return. They will of course qualify what they will accept, but you can easily overcome their objections by saying you will not give them anything religious. When they hand you a phamplet, write a website URL on it like www.jwfacts.com, www.freedomofmind.com, www.watchtowerdocuments.com, www.freeminds2.org, www.jwsurvey.org, etc, or place a permanent glue sticker on the phamplet, and hand it back to them . Follow up with by telling them how much better you felt by visiting the name of the website that you just wrote on the phamplet.

I tried this on Thanksgiving with a biblestudent and a JW. They were all smiles and left with the phamplet. They will never place that phamplet so they cannot count it as being placed. They may even visit the website in the future.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

24

New Here, Introduction

by budbayview in

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i have been eyeing this site for some time (years) and finally joined.

i was born in the organization, and grew up not too far were c.t.

russell started it all.

ABibleStudent

Welcome budbayview, I'm glad that you no longer victimized by the WTBTS's BITE control and are able to be spiritual without needing to be a member of an organized religion. I look forward to reading more of your posts.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

17

Thanks!

by Lightgrowsbrighter in

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thanks to all of the friends here at jwn who commented and encouraged me on my 1st and 2nd post.

it was pointed out that my 1st post was on page 5 of the recent elders thread and that i should properly introduce myself with a new thread.

the lightgrowsbrighter name is somewhat of play on words.

ABibleStudent

Welcome Lightgrowsbrighter, Since you feel that the WTBTS does teach some good things, do you feel that teaching some good things can justify the WTBTS using BITE control techniques to victimize JWs?

If you do not know what BITE stands or what I am stating, please either visit Steve Hassan's website www.freeedomofmind.com, watch the Strategic Interactive Approach explained 2003 (1:23:23) video of Steve Hassan, and/or read Steve Hassan's books (i.e., "Combatting Cult Mind Control", "Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves", and (his latest book) "Freedom of Mind: Helping Loved Ones Leave Controlling People, Cults and Beliefs"). I view the WTBTS leadership (not individual JWs) like Jesus Christ said in Mt 7:14-16.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

3

The new pamphlets

by joelfromgeorgia in

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the witnesses regularly leave me copies of the watchtower and awake.

i was surprised to see them in pamphlet form.

anyone know the history behind the change?.

ABibleStudent

Does this mean that JWs are changing their strategy to a drop and run instead of spreading the word through proselytizing? If JWs are dropping off phamplets and running, I wonder how JWs will be able to brag about how well they are spreading the word of the WTBTS.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Where the need is greater: TTATT in Spanish

by Londo111 in

it seems most of the us growth is in spanish-speaking territory, and of course, there is growth in the nations where spanish is the predominant language.

most sites oriented around ttatt, are english-speaking.

there seems then to be a great need for translators...for instance, imagine if there was a spanish version of www.jwfacts.com.. unfortunately, i dont speak this language.

ABibleStudent

BTTT

I think that this is the 1st thread that I have read on JWN in 3 years that people have respectfully and generally agreed with each other on a course of action to help JWs to see TTATT.

It sounds like jwfacts needs one coordinator, who is a native-Spanish speaker, to coordinate with jwfacts and translators and to answer emails in Spanish, and at least two translators. Should volunteers contact jwfacts through [email protected] or another email address? Would jwfacts need to establlish another email address to receive spanish emails and reduce the workload of forwarding emails?

If Simon were to start a Spanish forum on JWN, would he need at least one native-Spanish speaker to moderate the forum and answer Spanish emails?

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Just sent letter to my parents that I no longer want to be a JW

by ?evrything in

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i was a born in.

both parents are uber dubs and mother has been depressed lately.

so i m super nervous.

ABibleStudent

Hi ?evrything, Four hours is a long-time for a JW to spend with a WTBTS dissenter. If they asked you questions and did not get upset, they may do more research in a couple of weeks to prove you wrong and want to meet with you again.

Best of wishes helping your parents to critically think for themselves.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

13

Stats: Does Money affect the growth? Analyze please...

by ILoveTTATT in

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i made a graph of the new members from 2012 to 2013 in all countries that had positive growth, and graphed them against the country's gdp per capita.. .

the general trend is, as expected, less growth the more money there is in a country.

but there were some unexpected results.

ABibleStudent

Hi ILoveTTATT, Have you tried to plot new members versus internet penetration and new members versus a country's minimum wage? Try the following Wikipedia links for quick sources and you can use the references to confirm the numbers:

I think that you might discover that the WTBTS grows more in countries where people are poorer and there are fewer internet users.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Where the need is greater: TTATT in Spanish

by Londo111 in

it seems most of the us growth is in spanish-speaking territory, and of course, there is growth in the nations where spanish is the predominant language.

most sites oriented around ttatt, are english-speaking.

there seems then to be a great need for translators...for instance, imagine if there was a spanish version of www.jwfacts.com.. unfortunately, i dont speak this language.

ABibleStudent

jwfacts - I would like ideas on whether the site should be jwfacts.com/espanol/article-title or a separate website with a spanish URL, such as tjhechos.es? In that case, would .es work, or does that seem to identify it as a site from Spain, rather than for Spanish speaking people?

Hi jwfacts, I feel it would be simplist to just append "_es" to the spanish written article's name. In the future, it would be easy enough to add other languages as sufficient people volunteer to translate articles. Also, I feel that it is better to focus on the WTBTSs flip-flops and the more dangerous WTBTS's doctrines, because the WTBTS changes its doctrines too much.

Best of wishes with adding Spanish translations to JWfacts.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Just sent letter to my parents that I no longer want to be a JW

by ?evrything in

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friends

i was a born in.

both parents are uber dubs and mother has been depressed lately.

so i m super nervous.

ABibleStudent

Good-luck ?evrything, How did you meeting with your parents go?

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert