Posts by WildeLover

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"It is so obvious to someone just doing a cursory study of the Bible that they simply have no idea of how to read and understand it, let alone any real insight"

by WildeLover in

in another thread phizzy made an interesting point.

it is so obvious to someone just doing a cursory study of the bible that they simply have no idea of how to read and understand it, let alone any real insight.. .

i am curious as to some simple yet strong points the wbtrash socierty have so very obviouslsy and clearly oten wrong?.

WildeLover

Cheers return of parakeet

will check that out!!!

best wishes

WildeLover

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"It is so obvious to someone just doing a cursory study of the Bible that they simply have no idea of how to read and understand it, let alone any real insight"

by WildeLover in

in another thread phizzy made an interesting point.

it is so obvious to someone just doing a cursory study of the bible that they simply have no idea of how to read and understand it, let alone any real insight.. .

i am curious as to some simple yet strong points the wbtrash socierty have so very obviouslsy and clearly oten wrong?.

WildeLover

thanks guys for your comments!

i realy appreciate it :-)

cheers Phizzy for the inspiration! must catch up on mail soon.... ;)

WildeLover

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"It is so obvious to someone just doing a cursory study of the Bible that they simply have no idea of how to read and understand it, let alone any real insight"

by WildeLover in

in another thread phizzy made an interesting point.

it is so obvious to someone just doing a cursory study of the bible that they simply have no idea of how to read and understand it, let alone any real insight.. .

i am curious as to some simple yet strong points the wbtrash socierty have so very obviouslsy and clearly oten wrong?.

WildeLover

hi

in another thread Phizzy made an interesting point

It is so obvious to someone just doing a cursory study of the Bible that they simply have no idea of how to read and understand it, let alone any real insight.

I am curious as to some simple yet strong points the WBTrash socierty have so very obviouslsy and clearly oten wrong?

as the WBTrash society have a comeback for every "error" that could be pointed out is there anything that simply dont have a smart-alec answer for?

thanks

WildeLover

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"There will be blood" - I DO BELIEVE there will be an up rise very soon

by raymond frantz in

i was moved from the post of another user on this topic.like the film "there will be blood" that deals with passive aggression in religion i do now think that there will be an inevitable uprise against the lunatics of the governing body .too many of us wake up in a rate that has never been seen before because of the internet .what do you think ?

what shape will this uprise take ?.

cuba libre.

WildeLover

insearchoftruth4

(Has there been an uprising in any religion the last 100 years?) 1982 Syria, 1916 Ireland to name a few

Ireland 1916 was against British occupation and the rebels taking a stand against Britain during WW1... thsi was not against Religion. that was not its intent.

in Ireland there is an uprising at the moment against the RC Church. a silent one as people leave the pews and vocations dry up.

Let us hope the Tower will soon fall and its waters will dry up.

WildeLover

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Your Saturday Time Puke

by Kool Jo in

so i'm sure some of you have seen this already...but read this crap that was sent to me this morning, while i was sleeping in.

it was sent to me by an uber dub in my former congregation....i think it's a chain message:.

if someone asks about your educational background, proclaim boldly that:.

WildeLover

VOMIT

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This good news of the kingdom

by sd-7 in

jw
friends

if you'll open your 'benefit from theocratic ministry school education' books to page 279, you'll notice that it says, "the message jesus said would be preached in our time goes beyond what was preached in the first century.

" if you actually opened your books, i'm paraphrasing, but that's pretty close to the actual quote.. i remembered this quote from sometime ago, but couldn't understand how people overlooked this obvious violation of galatians 1:8: "even though we or an angel out of heaven should declare to you as good news something beyond what we preached, let him be accursed.".

of course, the answer is obvious: many jws don't pay attention to what they read.

WildeLover

bump

i found this some quotes on a thread made by Farkel

*** w6712/15pp.753-754WhatNowDistinguishestheGoodNewstoBePreached***

What NowDistinguishestheGoodNewstoBePreached

EVER since the end of the Gentile Times in 1914 something of very present importance has been added to the “good news of God” that Jesus Christ used to preach in the Middle East, preaching to as many cities as possible, just as he said on one occasion: “Also to other cities I must declare the good news of the kingdom of God, because for this I was sent forth.” (Luke 4:43; 8:1; 16:16) After his death and resurrection and his glorification in heaven, his apostles and faithful disciples preached the good news of the coming kingdom of God. (Acts 20:24, 25; 28:30, 31) What vital thing has now been added to the good news of the kingdom of God that Jesus Christ and his zealous apostles used to preach nineteen hundred years ago? This, namely, the birth of God’s Messianic kingdom in the heavens at the end of the Gentile Times in 1914. And after the ensuing war in the invisible heavens and the ouster of Satan the Devil and his demons from heaven and down to earth, this announcement was sounded forth, to be added to the good news, as stated in Revelation 12:9-12:

2 “Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God! . . . On this account be glad, you heavens and you who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.”

3 What a joy-inspiring addition or enlargement to the good news now to be preached! Now has come the victorious kingdom of our God together with the authority of his Christ, his Messiah! As for Satan the Devil and his demons, they have only a short period of time until they are bound and imprisoned in the abyss after the “war of the great day of God the Almighty” at Armageddon. All this additional wonderful information has been true since the end of the “appointed times of the nations” in 1914, and particularly since World War I closed in the year 1918. Not before the “appointed times of the nations” ended in the fall of 1914 could the good news be preached of the newborn, established heavenly kingdom of God and of his Messiah. This, then, must be the good news that Jesus Christ in his prophecy said had to be preached first in all the nations. (Mark 13:10) This generation of human society that has seen and experienced the world events since the Gentile Times closed in 1914—this is the “generation” that will not pass away until all the things foretold have happened, including the preaching of the good news first in all nations.

4 Jesus’ prophecy in Mark 13:10, “Also, in all the nations the good news has to be preached first,” has not been undergoing fulfillment during the past nineteen centuries. It is only since the second decade of our twentieth century that this prophecy has been undergoing fulfillment. This began to be realized by the International Bible Students Association and the Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society since the end of the second decade of our century. In the magazine issue of July 1, 1920, of TheWatchTowerandHeraldofChrist’sPresence the article was published entitled “Gospel of the Kingdom” and based on the theme text, “‘And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.’—Matthew 24:14.” In the last six paragraphs it said:

5 “It will be noted he does not say the gospel that has been preached to the meek throughout the entire Gospel age shall be preached. What gospel then could he mean? The gospel means good news. The good news here is concerning the end of the old order of things and the establishment of Messiah’s kingdom. It means the dark night of sin and sorrow is passing away. It means that Satan’s empire is falling, never to rise again. It means the sun of righteousness is rising rapidly, its healing beams penetrating the darkness and driving back that which obscures the truth and bringing to the people that which will bless, comfort, strengthen and uplift them. . . .

6 “It will be observed that in the order named this message must be delivered between the time of the great world war and the time of the ‘great tribulation’ mentioned by the Master in Matthew 24:21, 22. This message could not have been delivered prior to the beginning of the world war. Clearly, then, the Master intended for us to understand that a time would come when the church must declare to the world as a witness that the old order is ending and will shortly pass away forever. . . .

7 “What a blessed privilege the church now has of being the ambassadors of the Lord’s kingdom and engaging in delivering the good news.”—Pages 199, 200.

8 Since the publishing of that new, up-to-date understanding of the prophetic words of Jesus Christ more and more evidence has piled up in the world events and conditions and in the experience of the International Bible Students to prove that God’s Messianic kingdom was indeed born in the heavens at the due time in 1914 and that “this good news of the kingdom” means the fresh, brand-new information that tells of God’s established kingdom. No news of the day could surpass that for real goodness. For this reason the whole world of mankind deserved to hear this good news, “this gospel of the kingdom.” (Matt. 24:14, AV;NW) And according to Jesus Christ all the world of mankind has to hear it. “In all the nations the good news has to be preached,” said he.—Mark 13:10.

*** w881/1p.21par.8“TheGoodNewsHastoBePreachedFirst”***

8 In “the last days,” the good news of the Kingdom involves more than it did when Jesus was on earth. Jesus preached that the Kingdom had drawn near, drawing attention to the fact that he was among the people as the Messiah and King. (2 Timothy 3:1; Matthew 4:17; Luke 17:21) The good news preached by the early Christians included the matter of Jesus’ resurrection and ascension to heaven, and it encouraged meek ones to put faith in the coming Kingdom. (Acts 2:22-24, 32; 3:19-21; 17:2, 3; 26:23; 28:23, 31) Now that we have reached “the conclusion of the system of things,” the preaching of the good news of the Kingdom includes the striking message that the Kingdom is established in the heavens.—Revelation 11:15-18; 12:10.

best wishes

WildeLover

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How Long has it Been since you Last Attended Meetings and What Caused...

by flipper in

jw
friends

..... you to stop attending ?

injustices ?

disagree with the teachings ?

WildeLover

November 2012......

family not in, so am losing close friends but they were always conditional....

the wool was pulled over my eyes for so long bu it was basically the 607 articles in 2011 that pushed me over the edge and the way they lied, misquoted etc...... i never plan on going back and not even the memorial in the spring!!

no way !

WildeLover

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Jehovah's Witnesses and spiritual healers top complaints to Charity Commission

by iamwhoiam in

jehovah's witnesses and spiritual healers top complaints to charity commissionby ian griggs, third sector online, 7 january 2013. charity commission.

the rspca and national trust are also in top 10 most-complained about charities, the regulator has revealedthe central body for jehovahs witnesses in britain and a spiritual healers organisation were the charities about which the charity commission received the most complaints in the two years to march 2012.. the regulator said it had received 13 complaints about both the watch tower bible and tract society of britain and the nfsh charitable trust during the period.. the figures were revealed in response to a request under the freedom of information act, made by the conservative mp simon hart in july, for a list of the ten charities about which the commission received most complaints.. the rspca and jnf charitable trust, which is concerned with israel, were the next most complained about, with 12 complaints to the commission over two years.. hart, a former chief executive of the pro-hunting charity the countryside alliance, was one of a group of cross-party group of politicians that has called on the commission to investigate the rspca after it spent more than 320,000 on a successful private prosecution of the heythrop hunt.. the commission's list does not include complaints made to charities themselves or to other regulators such as the advertising standards authority and the fundraising standards board.. the commission said none of the complaints against charities in the top 10 resulted in any formal action against those organisations.

it also said the number of complaints would not necessarily mean that a charity had acted wrongly or contrary to its charitable purpose.. begin ad tag c501 end ad tag c501 "an internal dispute within a membership body could result in several letters of complaint or dissatisfaction, but may not be be a fair indication of the level of service that is being received by beneficiaries," said liam carroll, the commissions complaints manager.. .

WildeLover

will anything be done about it??? :-/

wildelover

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Doctrines that must change-- which ones?

by WildeLover in

considering the recent major doctrinal changes in relation to the generation and to the faithful and discreet slave which other doctrines do you think they will have to change?.

generation changea time and too many of the anointed dying.

f&dsa anointed growing in number so necessary to blow that out of the water by completely centralising power in the gb.

WildeLover

HI all

Considering the recent major doctrinal changes in relation to the generation and to the faithful and discreet slave which other doctrines do you think they will have to change?

Generation change à time and too many of the anointed dying

F&DS à anointed growing in number so necessary to blow that out of the water by completely centralising power in the GB

So what else must change too with the passing of time or other circumstances that will force their hand?

Best wishes

WildeLover

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Jehovah's Witnesses: behind the knock on sky tv (uk)

by ns7 in

jw
friends

still lurking on here from time to time, but seen this so thought i would post it in case anyone would want to see this.. if this has been posted then my apologies.. .

the documentary on the witness's which i remember did get a mention when it first came out a few years ago is being shown on sky tv on 23 dec at 22:20-23:35 on pbs (chan 166).. its being repeated at 01:55 and 04:55 same channel in the early hours of the 24th dec..

WildeLover

I watched it too.... a lot of witnesses i know have watched it and think positively of it.

the only thing which i thought must have passed them over was at the start when it was mentioned about when someone is DFd and then shunned.

also that young guy had a moustache! how UN WT PC

WildeLover