I've spent all my life not celebrating B-days and I'm not going to be bothered with it now. I just don't give a shit. If you feel you must, all power to ya! Happy birthday to whoever's birthday it is today...
V665
i cannot take credit for any of the gems below but i did want to polish and organize them.
much of the information was borrowed from this thread.
if you can come up with any more, please post them.. the bible does not ban birthdays.
I've spent all my life not celebrating B-days and I'm not going to be bothered with it now. I just don't give a shit. If you feel you must, all power to ya! Happy birthday to whoever's birthday it is today...
V665
about a year ago i went through a mild meltdown.
it hit me fast i had panic attacks and became angry with all the control in my life.
(being a jw) i had just found out i was being screwed on a real estate development project by another self righteous jw i have known for a long time but this was a big loss (about 4 months pay plus expenses).
I bid you welcome, Evidently Apostate.
May you learn much here. Mind you, this forum can be as much a circus as any: be warned. Otherwise just have fun here.
V665
what situation(s) got you out of the organization, either mentally or physically or both?
what was your "last straw"?.
What did it for me?
I discovered over time that so-called "friends" inside the congo were never true friends at all. Most of these "friends" started pulling away and ignoring me. Some even looked at me with disgust and I'm not really sure why. I believe that people were talking behind my back instead of telling me to my face what was really wrong. Maybe it's just human nature but they're supposed to be better than that, aren't they? Whatever friends I had remaining would blindly defend the actions of the others.
I also couldn't give up certain "bad habits" and I never felt I could do good enough. I had a sneaking suspicion of the Elders, that they maybe weren't as kindly, fair-minded and trustworthy as the WTS was saying they were.
It all made me depressed and I started attending meetings less ansd less. I stopped the field circus altogther after an emotional crash. I couldn't bear to start again, preaching a message on behalf of people I no longer believed in. I eventually stopped going to the KH altogether as well.
Over a year later I started lurking here and began to see the breadth and depth of the WTS's corruption. How they really used DF to punish the innocent and protect the guilty to cover their own behinds instead of being forthcoming and doing the right thing. How Elders neglect, mistreat and abuse the flock. How cold and loveless the congregations really are. How the doctrines just don't add up.
I'm NEVER going back now.
V665
Wow Zid! We learn something new everyday...
V665
i guess i should have said, "how does a man move up" since they're a male-only ruling class.... what does it take to become an elder, and so on up?
i don't really think the mr. is in the running for any special titles, but just in case in the future something along these lines happens, how does the hierarchy work?
(probably not a true consideration, being that he's married to me, but hey, i'm sure stranger things have happened).. .
Pioneering and crazy amounts of time in the field circus helps too. It's all asinine anyway...
V665
Only if the life-begins-at-conception thing matters to you. If you've already left the borg, don't wory about it.
V665
He might be in my GENERAL neck of the woods but I wouldn't know him from Adam IRL. Sorry...
Isn't there already another thread about this?
V665
i'm afraid of people and ive really tried for fifteen years the rational part of mind keeps telling me im being stupid i've worked with these people for seven years i trust them there all really really kind none of them have done anything to harm me and when i'm at work and hanging around them i'm fine and happy and talkative but the moment i get into a situation where i have too be socalable i start having panic attacks and i cant breathe i tried talk to my dad (non jw parent) he told me to get over it that i've been out fifteen years and i cant blame my mothers religion for everything.
i'm starting too wonder if thiers somthing wrong with me!
the worst part is while the rational part of my brain is telling me my reations stupid the irrational part of brain is screraming and my hearts beating so fast i cant feal or control my reations.
@LucyA,
I don't know what it's like to have panic attacks but I know enough about anxiety and depression. When it comes to anxiety disorder, panic attacks are almost a dead giveaway. You really should see your doctor ASAP. Get a referral to a psychiatrist if need be.
I can understand if you might be hesitant to go to a shrink because you're fearful of being branded as "crazy", but this might not be something you can take care of on your own. The social stigma surrounding mental illness is awful and inexcusable but for now it's a part of life. Don't let it stop you from getting help. This sounds serious.
Whether or not you are officially diagnosed with anything, you should seek out a local mental health support group if one exists in your area. Being in a support group does help a lot, especially with depression. Believe me.
Good luck,
V665
the greatest lesson that the watchtower has taught me is to give the love that has been taken from me.
our mother shuns my brother and me to the extreme.
just this morning she told me on the phone from her hospital bed that we will have to learn her diagnosis through the grapevine.. she wasn't always like this.
Much appreciated, Jamie.
V665