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  Rationalism and religion

  by Narkissos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've not been too good at creating topics thus far, but for my 1000th post (in case you wouldn't notice .

  we often oppose reason (ratio) and belief, as if those were mutually exclusive.

  reason always works from presuppositions.

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  Narkissos, Good way to celebrate your 1000th post. Yes, I agree with you that within the bounds of common presuppositions religion can be rational. Many of them are, which may be what attract us to the WT. They seemed to debunk the irrational beliefs of other 'religions' making a plausible effort to dispute their teachings with: 1 reason supported by 2 proofs. However, when the presuppositions are challenged we find the limits of rationality in religion. Religion has a different "way of knowing" from secularist. It's way of knowing is based on divine revelation which makes it inerrant and unchangeable. When new evidence is presented that seems to contradict the 'revelation' then the evidence must be set aside or explained away. After all, God cannot be found untrue. And before Little Toe picks up his marker again I will admit as he says:

  not all religion is bible-based

  I think that means some religion is willing to be flexible in their "way of knowing". That's cool. But not a popular thought in the US. Jst2laws
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  Documentary, Death in Gaza

  by jst2laws in

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  excellent documentary with a strange ending.

  mostly about several palastinian children in one town.

  you get to know them and the film crew will.. if you miss it today, look for it in the future.

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  Now that the thread is up, how you going to explain your comment

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  Documentary, Death in Gaza

  by jst2laws in

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  excellent documentary with a strange ending.

  mostly about several palastinian children in one town.

  you get to know them and the film crew will.. if you miss it today, look for it in the future.

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  It is on HBO2 right now. Excellent documentary with a strange ending.

  Mostly about several Palastinian children in one town. You get to know them and the film crew will.

  If you miss it today, look for it in the future.

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  U.S. death toll in Iraq at 1,000

  by Simon in

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  what a sad 'milestone' ... and for what?.

  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5911852/

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  Simon,

  CNN just did a rather negative report on this. They ran two clips of George saying the war is over and then the reporter explained that 85% of the deaths have come since the war ended.

  Now they are reporting the total is "1003 yet the administration insists that the war was necessary".

  Nathan,

  So that your sons won't have to live or die under the authoritarian decrees of some theocratic mulla

  I completely agree with the need to deal with terrorism, but this war was about something else.

  But lets don't let this become an issue to argue, we are just reporting the news.

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  Thank You My Friends.

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the postman has just brought another batch of get-well cards.

  thank you so much, my friends, there have been so many, most without a return addy that i feel quite overwhelmed by all of this kindness.. just an update: (not for the squeamish).

  i'm recovering well, although i can't walk more than about 50 yards at present.

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  Hey Mike,

  Glad you are improving. And that was a very nice description of your wound therapy.

  Joy was showing me the pics from your last BBO. She has a good one of your famous smile.

  Take care.

  Steve
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  And upon her forehead was written a name, a mystery:

  by myelaine in

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  2. beliefs

  rev.

  verse 18 .

  and the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.

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  Dear Myelaine,

  you said:

  I haven't said. You decide.

  regarding the Watchtower's teaching on Revelation. But this is a discussion board and the WT is not going to come here and discuss it with us. How can we discuss it with you unless you give us your opinion? Jst2laws
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  When my daughter was 10 years old...

  by NOdenial in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  my 22 year old, married daughter came by to visit this weekend.

  she was baptised 12 years ago - when she was only 10 years old.

  ... as a parent... what was i thinking back then?!

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  Hey NOdenial,

  I agree with SP on the issue of pursuing this legally, Jgnat on letting you daughter remain in control, and Blondie about contacting Kimberly Norris, but with one purpose. Not to pursue legal contacts in Canada perticularly but to add this man's name to her database in case there have been or will be others coming forward with complaints.

  That way you have done what you can to protect others without violating your daughters right to pursue or not pursue this. Although I agree it was abusive to your daughter for him to behave this way, doubt it would go anywhere if it was brought to court. But if he has done worse to others, she may choose to add testimony against the man in anothers suite.

  I'm sorry for both of you. I think your daughter would be even more upset with this event if she knew how extensive a problem child molestation is in the WT, but then perhaps you have been sharing that with her.

  Take care,
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  Hurricane Frances, The Good Before the Bad and Ugly

  by jst2laws in

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  i'm am sympathetic for you who have been hit by frances.

  we will have to share our pictures someday of the 1995 remodeling hurricane opal did to us.

  and now we are in the path of frances but hopefully she will not grow much in the gulf before reaching the panhandle.

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  Freefalling,

  Looks Frances will be a tropical storm by the time it hits you guys.

  Yeah, no sign yet of it gaining strength, and it is going toward Carabella east of us.

  Dana, nice to hear from you.

  Please tie a rope to your son to keep him safe.

  He has friends over and plans to party all day and through the evening. They will not be surfing because the wind on this side of the storm is blowing off shore which makes the ocean flat. No waves.

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  Creative days

  by rockhound in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  genesis records that on the fifth creative day, the waters of the earth would teem with living creatures, and every winged bird would fill the sky.

  at the beginning of the sixth creataive day, all the creatures that move along the ground were created.

  keeping these texts in mind, i'd like to share with you some of my observations about this wonderful earth that have convinced me that the creative days of genesis were far longer than the 7,000 year long periods we were taught as jehovah's witnesses.

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  Rockhound,

  Good to have you here

  "When mountaineers stand on the summit of Everest and pose for the photograph of their lifetime, they are standing on the remains of marine fossil over 50 million years old

  What an irony. To stand at the top of the world with one's feet supported by sedimentary rock that was once at the bottom of the world.

  I watched for such reality while traveling through the Canadian Rockies this summer at every park we visited. Hope to hear more from you. And welcome to the board.

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  Hurricane Frances, The Good Before the Bad and Ugly

  by jst2laws in

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  i'm am sympathetic for you who have been hit by frances.

  we will have to share our pictures someday of the 1995 remodeling hurricane opal did to us.

  and now we are in the path of frances but hopefully she will not grow much in the gulf before reaching the panhandle.

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  I just thought I would give you a sample of what we went through in 1995. Same home we live in now.

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