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  Let's have a baby shower!!!

  by Julie in

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  as most of you know one of our long time posters, "mommy"/wendy, is expecting a baby in the very near future.

  as some of you may not know (and i hope she doesn't plot my murder for discussing it) wendy is going through some real tough times.

  she could use a few things for the baby considering getting by with two other children is difficult enough!.

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  Joyzabel

  Great idea Julie,

  Sorry Wendy, no gift wrapping if you want to stick to basics ;)

  Wendy, I have a question for you, how are you staying on bedrest while homeshooling your kids????? You're a nurse, you know what bedrest means, now do it!

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  JW's in the '40s and '50s

  by larc in

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  folks,.

  i was thinking about what is was like growing up as a jw in the 40's and 50's.

  some things were easier, some were harder.. easier.

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  Joyzabel

  lol thanks for this post larc, BUT I am not that old! so I have nothing to contribute.
  Now the 60's
  easier
  Wt & G for a dime (that was all I said at the door :) )
  harder
  seeing young men go to prison during the vietnam war
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  A story of brotherly love.....

  by Tatiana in

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  since i've been here, from around july, 2001, i haven't really shared any personal experiences of why i left the society, except for the story about my sister who committed suicide.

  this is kind of long, so i will tell it in parts.

  if this is god's organization, i will gladly be a devil worshiper.. here goes....... when i was about 27 years old, (around 1984) after my divorce, i'd moved from laurens, south carolina back to andrews, sc, and rented the house beside my grandmother.

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  Joyzabel

  wow Tatiana, I am totally blown away.
  What a loving heart you displayed at someone else's time of need.
  "by their fruits you will know them". Glad you saw what kind of fruit your family and jws were displaying. It is always ashame that a tragic event helps us to wake up to the mind control and lack of love in the wtbts.
  Thank you for sharing. I hope you can move on in your journey and become a stronger person from what difficulties you have endured.
  j2bf
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  hello from newbie

  by gspradling in

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  i am an inactive jw.

  my mother and sis are still in.

  i have been lurking here for awhile and i enjoy reading most posts.

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  Joyzabel

  Welcome to our fun loving place.

  I remember how scared I was the first time I posted. Now you are beyond that. Have fun

  j2bf
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  thank you

  by nimue in

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  i have been a lurker on the jehovahs-witness forum for several weeks now.

  i am not now, nor have i ever been a jw.

  i wanted to let you know how much i appreciate your threads on helping people to leave the organization.

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  Joyzabel

  Welcome to the board Nimue.

  Please be patient with your friend. I think its wonderful that you are trying to help your fiend to begin with. Mind control is a hard thing to battle against especially if one wants to be a true believer.

  j2bf
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  Let The Wind Blow

  by Frenchy in

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  let the wind blow.

  all my life i have walked against the wind.

  never learning to give or yield.

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  Joyzabel

  Frenchy,

  Tears are in my eyes. That was just lovely.

  How well you are expressing the feeling of living ones whole life as a jw and then finding out the truth. It really touched me. Thank you.

  j2bf
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  For those who grew up a JW . . .

  by Trixie in

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  does it ever surprise you when you see people that you grew up with as a jw and they're still witnesses?

  i went to school with a lot of those jw kids my age and i can't believe that they continue to be jws when they are free of their parents.. i want to say," you're an adult with a high school education or a ged!

  haven't you figured the scam out?!".

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  Joyzabel

  Good point JBean,
  
  "Until something bad/traumatic, whatever you'd want to label it, happens personally to them or someone close to them(and it really may NEVER) they'll not have their eyes opened"

  It is ashame that it takes something like that to wake people up but I am beginning to feel that it is the mindcontrol that we were under that effects us that way. I am thankful I have my husband and now immediate family to be able to talk things through in leaving the wtbt. I don't know how someone, by themselves surronded by that mindset, can ever get themselves free. That's why I want to be here to help others learn there is a better way of life, just in the mere fact of being free of "mindcontrol".

  j2bf
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  Are you really ready for big moral issues?

  by Mindchild in

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  while reading the abortion thread on this site today, i was reminded of a college class i took on dealing with ethical and moral issues.

  i learned something interesting in this class and it was that just because we have strong beliefs about something, it doesn't give us any rights to impose our beliefs on others.. this is of course the "christian" way...to demand that their beliefs should be the standard by which we all live our lives.

  this intolerance, or in milder cases disgust for nonconformers, is in itself one of the huge moral issues we face.. essentially, regardless of things being right or wrong, our world defines societal norms by community standards.

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  Joyzabel

  I like your reasoning, Mandy.
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  Are you really ready for big moral issues?

  by Mindchild in

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  while reading the abortion thread on this site today, i was reminded of a college class i took on dealing with ethical and moral issues.

  i learned something interesting in this class and it was that just because we have strong beliefs about something, it doesn't give us any rights to impose our beliefs on others.. this is of course the "christian" way...to demand that their beliefs should be the standard by which we all live our lives.

  this intolerance, or in milder cases disgust for nonconformers, is in itself one of the huge moral issues we face.. essentially, regardless of things being right or wrong, our world defines societal norms by community standards.

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  Joyzabel

  I agree Frenchy is very gallant. But would that be the case in real life?

  Obviously there are many factors that come into play in this scenario. But I do not have a grandiose idea that my life is more important than any other adults. The supreme thing to do would be to help the children first. Then look at the most likely to survive, I guess. Why have space taken up by someone whose life may already be limited by such factors as physical injuries.
  Unfortunately if the scenario was a real one, quick decisions have to be made and not always do the 12 survivors have the luxury of thinking what is the “best” decision for all involved. I would hope I would be able to contribute to a humane decision at the time and then be able to live with the group’s decision, whatever it may be.

  j2bf
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  Continue progressing as spiritual men

  by betweenworlds in

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  here is one paragraph from the aforementioned talk from the kingdom ministry school.

  it talks about the chieftan class.

  this is apparently new light from the march 1st 1999 watchtower.

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  Joyzabel

  Welcome Guest 77

  Guest,I remember hearing that at bethel in the 70s. I thought then "what propaganda"! And they are still spruing it today. Just using a different spin on it. Sad for all the "sheep without a shepard"

  j2bf