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  Looks like ABC New York got the okay.

  by truthseekeriam in

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  2. friends

  http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.

  12/19/2014order filed.

  upon due consideration, the media request of applicant abc news to make a video recording of oral argument in the above-referenced appeal is granted.

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  wannabefree

  "I so hope that the end result of all of this is that the WT are duty bound to drop the 2 witness rule."

  They won't drop this rule, it is scriptural.  They have adjusted how they apply it and are much more careful about what they say.  Don't forget that these cases come out of the 1980's and how they were handled at that time.  They are now trained on what to say, how to say it, what to ask or not.  If it is a criminal case they will refer it to the legal system if required, it the law doesn't require it they won't.  They are fighting cases against a time that they hadn't been so proactive in a legal sense.  Now most of us recognize the Organization is run behind the scenes by lawyers.
  
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  i know this has been talked about. but isn't wearing JW.org stuff idol worship

  by goingthruthemotions in

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  2. friends

  so i am getting really frustrated...i see jdub's wearing jw.org items and .

  isn't this idol worship.

  respond if you like...i just want some .

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  wannabefree

  No.

  It is advertising.  Shows club membership to other JW's, allows for "witnessing" opportunities to the inquiring non-JW.

  Gaudy and distasteful relegation of a religious faith to a brand ... but then again, it is a cult.
  

  
  
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  Upcoming meeting Re: KH Construction

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  fresh from the "press":to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territoryre: local design/construction department broadcastdear brothers:the work of constructing and maintaining theocratic facilities throughout the unitedstates branch territory is indeed great!

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  29:1) with this in mind, we are pleased to informyou of a special meeting to be presented on saturday, january 31, 2015, at 3:00 p.m. easternstandard time (est) to all elders and circuit overseers in the united states branch territory.the meeting will be approximately two and a half hours in length and will includepresentations by members of the local design/construction department, the united statesbranch committee, the worldwide design/construction department, and a member of the governingbody.

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  wannabefree

  I wonder ... does this mean they will leave the lobby open for visitors to walk in and look around, grab some literature?  Seriously .. passerby able to see in, welcoming atmosphere to draw people in.

  
  

  Maybe if Kingdom Halls are going to be relocated to commercial storefronts along busy sidewalks.

  
  

  This is nuts.  Do the cult leaders think that "worldly people" are going to be drawn into the Kingdom Hall because they are going to go out of their way to drive into the parking lot, get out and look in the window?

  
  

  These changes bring excitement to the already indoctrinated only.
  

  
  

  • Transparency – windows and a store front like entrance - that passersby will be able to see into

  • Welcoming Atmosphere –this new design will draw people in

    
    
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  Upcoming meeting Re: KH Construction

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  fresh from the "press":to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territoryre: local design/construction department broadcastdear brothers:the work of constructing and maintaining theocratic facilities throughout the unitedstates branch territory is indeed great!

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  29:1) with this in mind, we are pleased to informyou of a special meeting to be presented on saturday, january 31, 2015, at 3:00 p.m. easternstandard time (est) to all elders and circuit overseers in the united states branch territory.the meeting will be approximately two and a half hours in length and will includepresentations by members of the local design/construction department, the united statesbranch committee, the worldwide design/construction department, and a member of the governingbody.

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  wannabefree

  I found this part interesting from the above link ... giving the Kingdom Halls a commercial, storefront appearance.

  The new design will be a bit more commercial in nature – dryvit/stone/ flat roof with parapet / mechanicals on the roof

  • Recognizable Images like JW.org

  • Transparency – windows and a store front like entrance - that passersby will be able to see into

  • Welcoming Atmosphere –this new design will draw people in

  • Self Serve Literature display immediately in the lobby – this first thing you see – it will mimic what the public is used to seeing in our Metropolitan cart witnessing

  • The whole idea is like “branding” – or “franchising” – and very recognizable building / logo / message repeated over and over across the country.
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  Upcoming meeting Re: KH Construction

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  fresh from the "press":to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territoryre: local design/construction department broadcastdear brothers:the work of constructing and maintaining theocratic facilities throughout the unitedstates branch territory is indeed great!

  (1 chron.

  29:1) with this in mind, we are pleased to informyou of a special meeting to be presented on saturday, january 31, 2015, at 3:00 p.m. easternstandard time (est) to all elders and circuit overseers in the united states branch territory.the meeting will be approximately two and a half hours in length and will includepresentations by members of the local design/construction department, the united statesbranch committee, the worldwide design/construction department, and a member of the governingbody.

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  wannabefree

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/289353/ldc-semininar
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  2015 Convention locations - US & CA

  by wifibandit in

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  2. bible

  full set: http://imgur.com/a/czt56.

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  wannabefree

  Has this been released yet?  Just wondering because I called a motel in Green Bay to try and get my wife a good close motel and they said it was booked.
  
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  Is child abuse becoming the 'Benghazi' of exJW's?

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i've been noticing a trend recently that seems to becoming prevalent in posts which i think is a little sad and counter productive where, whatever the topic is actually about, someone will be keen to remind everyone about child abuse issues within the wts.. any sort of abuse, especially that of children, is a very serious issue but i'm not sure it's prevention is necessarily best-served by brining it up at every opportunity.

  it ends up looking a little like the republican party's obsession with benghazi where they harp on about it to such an extent that people have become blind to it and it almost becomes a punchline.

  people become less and less convinced of the claims because they hear them too often.. trying to turn any discussion into including comments on it, however well-intentioned, starts to look misguided at some point.

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  wannabefree

  I agree Simon.

  Child abuse is a heinous crime.

  How the Organization handled this issue to protect their reputation is criminal.

  I believe they are more careful today, as are most institutions that have had to face this issue. 

  One of my awakenings was how they dealt with it, not that it happened.  God's Organization would set the example in how they cared for the sheep, it wouldn't have to be punished by Satan's world for failing in something that it should shine as the example in ... and then do what they could to hide it.

  When Gregario Smith was interviewed about his recently released documentary Truth Be Told by jwpodcast about not covering the abuse issue I thought he had a balanced answer.
  
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  NEW LIGHT ALERT! TARGET 2015 END TIMES! EVE WAS CREATED 40 YEARS AFTER ADAM! THE END IS NEAR!

  by Trailer Park Pioneer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is going around the kingdom halls now, i thought it was a hoax but are not all the end time dates produced by the organization some hoax or con?

  the reason why the end did not come in 1975 was the watchtower society had not put eve's creation in their equation.

  i was told when we had a "meet and greet" if "we knew the date of eve's creation we would know the year jehovah was going to destroy the earth.. it's been 40 years since 1975, can you believe it's been 40 years since "stay alive till 1975!"?

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  wannabefree

  Hmmm ... So Jesus (God's master worker) made all of the animals on earth in pairs so they could reproduce, yet, he made Adam, gave him all of the components necessary to procreate with a female of his species but forgot to make one for him.  All of a sudden ... forty years later ... Jesus notices, hey, I forgot to give Adam a wife so he rectifies his shortcoming by building a woman from one of Adam's ribs, and finally the last creative day is complete.

  Do you suppose Adam got a little turned on watching the other mammals doing it?  Did he wake up with morning wood for 40 years without wondering why or maybe asking God about it?
  

  Scares me that I used to believe crap like this.
  
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  Poster country flags and privacy

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  the new forum originally had a little country flag next to each post showing the country that the post was made from based on the geoip encoding (the country the ip address is from).

  before i switched over to the new site someone made an issue about it violating their privacy and i didn't want to complicate and confuse the switchover with policy debate at the same time as technical issues so removed the flags even though i disagreed.. someone has already requested it as a feature and i think it should be added back so i thought it's now time to open the discussion and get everyone's opinions.

  first, the reason i think it should be shown:.

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  wannabefree

  It doesn't matter to me. I'm in the United States.

  But I have to admit, even though it is a huge country, as Dagney brought out, I was terrified the first time I posted here.  I was so paranoid.  I doubt that exposing my country would have stopped me ... state for sure (at the time) ... some of these European countries are no larger than some U.S. states so I can certainly sympathize.  I think it is somewhat paranoid to think exposing the country would cause an outing, but newly doubting JW's are very paranoid.
  
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  2014 increase in Memorial Partakers to 14,121

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have updated the article at memorial partakers with the figures released for 2014. no surprises here, it has risen yet again, this time by 6% over last year, and is now 14,121.. .

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  wannabefree

  V's Watchtower Comments showing beginning of increase after 2007 change ... this was done in 2009, it certainly would be great if he did an update.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skppA3KzWbk