This is great news Aussie Oz, and wonderful that your love paid off. Sounds like a good son to care about you like this and to show his appreciation that way too. Well done to you, and all the best to him.
Loz x
son was up visiting today and we had some great little chats about all things watchtower.
i would say the chances of him going back are real slim now, for he was telling me of some of his own wtf research on the internet about them.. anyway, at one point he came up, gave me a big hug and said "thankyou for making me think".
it seems that all the little seed dropping and question dropping over the last 3 years really did work!
This is great news Aussie Oz, and wonderful that your love paid off. Sounds like a good son to care about you like this and to show his appreciation that way too. Well done to you, and all the best to him.
Loz x
the governing body is not all powerful and all present ,we are not totally powerless .use your talks to promote christian freedom and tear down their propaganda .use material from publications that promote christian freedom and scriptures that they willingly avoid .use your talks to awake your brothers .
the following talk uses non of the usual watchtower propaganda and uses scriptures the governing body chooses to avoid .. whether you are an elder ,a ministerial servant ,or just a publisher use your items and your talks at the meeting to awake your brothers and sisters .this talk was given few days ago at the thursday meeting ,based on proverbs 3:5.sorry for the accent ,english is not my mother language.. talk at the kingdom hall.
Excellent! Well done.
Loz x
anyone else want to join?
we'll be partaking in the bread and wine...no sing alongs and no talk...just reading the account on the bible.... :o).
Nolongerconfused, that's a lovely invitation, thank you. I partake at home and share 'in spirit' with many others around the world too. Its about what's in your heart that counts, and the faith you have in the partaking of those emblems.
Loz x
hi everyone, its been over 4 months and i have not heard a response from the elders.
i called one of them a few weeks back.
he said they sent it to bethel and haven't heard back yet.
That letter was exceptional Greybeard, you deserve a dignified response, sadly, we probably all know that it won't happen. I am sorry to hear about your losses and the sorrow it's causing you, and do hope you are able to begin feeling better soon. I'm glad you've found comfort with Christ and I hope the Holy Spirit strengthens you to continue to heal. When I'm hurting and it feels too much, I ask for the spirit to ease my pain, and it certainly does, always.
Loz x
i have just joined this website and just wanted to say hello to anyone out there.
i am so nervous,after thirty odd years in the "truth" i feel as though my husband and i have just walked into a room full of smiling strangers and we are just standing here hoping to god someone will come up and speak to us.
scared and excited and hoping to wake up one morning and not wonder what we do now???
Hello Fran and welcome to the forum. It makes me so sad to hear how you were treated even if it is an often told story. Rejection in the KH is so painful and humiliating. It also highlights the lack of love in there. I'm glad you are out and still have your family. It will take you a while to find yourselves, but you will, especially if you start communicating with each other, as you heal from the damage. Many of us were in our 50s when we departed the org and have successfully built new lives and careers. Soon it becomes possible to enjoy a wonderful freedom of thinking and talking and simply living.
Loz x
hi people.
in all my life i have only looked in a womans handbag once.
it was close to looking at the arc of the covenant.
Ooh, lots of stuff... A purse (wallet), some make up: lippy, blusher, eye shadow etc. tissues, pain killers, mobile phone. Then, electronic cigarette, keys for home and car, chewing gum, diary, pens, pencils, specs.
Loz x
after spending a lifetime in it, no one is as fed up with the wt as i am.
[my golf game would have been a hell of alot better if i was'nt banging my head against the wall on saturdays!
lol ] this forum has taught me alot more than i thought to confirm my suspicions.
Hello NowWhat?, an interesting thread....first please check the actual translation of that question. You will find that it's not a 'where' else to go but a 'whom' and that changes everything. The WTBS have shown themselves to be a part (daughter) of Babylon the Great, so, a false religion. That means as you know that you have to 'Get out of her my people...'
When on earth Christ clearly told us that HE is the Truth, the Word, the Life, the Way, the Light etc. our ONLY access to His and our Heavenly Father Jah, is through Him, the Door to the sheepfold. He said "Come to ME..." NOT "go to the WTBS, or this or that church"....he gave us all we need to reach Him and know Him and His father. Take some time and think, really think, about what He's saying to you, and to us all?
Loz x
this thread was sparked by punkofnice's thread and started a lively "discussion" in my mind about patriarchal power.
so i didn't want to derail punkofnice's thread or tec's subsequent one, but am interested in a discussion.. punkofnice's thread.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/245335/1/the-gb-are-gods-mouthpiece-rebuttal-to-elders .
If you've decided to return to the KH S&G, I'm not sure you need to be asking the question. The WTBS infer that there isn't another 'true' religion out there for people to go to. They may be right in that but neither are they a true religion, not at all. It's Christ that all should be seeking, as the real Truth and Life and mediator between us and Jah.
Loz x
over 2 years ago, my daughter was diagnosed with end stage congestive heart failure.
she has come so far.... and even rides her bike 5 to 6 miles per day now.
here's how she looks today.
Lovely pic CoffeeBlack, and I am so pleased to hear she is well.
Loz x
so as some of you already may know, i have stopped going to meetings for good and have nothing to do with wbts anymore...did not write a letter of disassociation because i dont believe an organization should spiritually execute me for rejecting men's tradition and false doctrine...some of you may recall i spoke to my wife and are in good terms, even though she's still an active jw.
my parents are both active jw's...when i visited them yesterday, they clearly did not expect me to tell them i had left the "org"...to my huge surprise, after i explained to them i had found ttatt (truth about the truth) and gave compelling evidence of my reasoning, and using the scriptures, they totally sided with me...i was dumbfounded...one of my parents even brought up ray franz and his book coc....i was like wtf??.
they told me all of these years they never had the guts to say anything about the hypocrisy in this org and they were glad that i as their son was able to step up and believe what is right and what is on the bible...they re-assured their love to me and they were happy i had found happiness in jesus christ and the need to have a personal relationship with him and not through a man made organization.... i totally did not expect this response from my parents...but it just leaves me to think that there are thousands of active jw's out there feeling the same way and don't have the courage to step up to the org...still don't know what they are going to do, but i got the feeling they will do the same eventually and move on from the wbts.... have a great week everyone.
Nolongerconfused, that's really brilliant. Well done to your parents. Lets hope you help them to find the courage to leave if they want to now.
Loz x