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  Yes, the WTBTS "Power" Really IS Powerful, More Than Most Imagine...

  by AGuest in

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  for they, alone, have apparently been able to do for some what no other religion, teaching, philosophy, belief, or faith, was able to do: turn some completely away from the most holy one of israel, jah of armies.

  may you all have peace.... of course, such ones may want to attribute their "change of heart" to something they call "atheism", but that really isn't the truth.

  atheism didn't call them; atheism was simply the final "oasis" to which they fled when the wtbts proved itself to be a "waterless region"... a wasteland... desolate.

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  @ diamoniiz

  So for me, if you want to help, the Lord better guide you to give me a call as anything less than that I can only view you as someone hearing voices and should really see a doctor if nothing else just to make sure you don't have a mental problem as you may or may not know, people with mental problems are the last ones to admit they have a problem just as people in cults are the last ones to admit they are in a cult. The Lord eithe has power or not.

  Why do you and others like you keep attacking ones like Shelby and accusing them of having a mental illness.

  With no disrespect.

  Seriously!

  Maybe you feel by using insults it strengthens your argument.
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  For Atheists & Strong Agnostics: (Believers can counter-post also!)

  by UnDisfellowshipped in

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  for atheists and strong agnostics (those who believe that we cannot know about god if he exists):.

  i am posting this thread because i think it greatly help myself (and other christian believers) to better understand your beliefs and your viewpoints, if you posted a short (or long) summary of what the reasons and basis are for your not believing that there is a god, or for believing that we cannot know god if he exists.. you can include arguments against god, against the bible, against the christian interpretations of the bible, etc.. you can include scientific evidence that you believe contradicts the bible, or contradicts the existence of a god/creator/designer.. christians believers: you are welcome to post counter-arguments, or summaries for why you believe in god/creator/designer or why you believe in the bible or the christian interpretations of the bible.. i also thought it might be good to link to another lively thread we had on this website a while back: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/175688/1/god-morals-and-atheists.

  when you include your reasons for why you don't believe in god or the bible, or why you do believe in god or the bible, please include at least a little bit of the evidence (or link to the evidence) that backs up your statement.. for example, it doesn't do much good to claim "evolution is false" and just leave it at that, or on the other hand, to say "the bible is full of scientific errors" and just leave it at that.. here are two threads i posted where i explained the reasons why i personally believe in god and the bible:.

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  Finallysomepride - that had me crying.
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  My update

  by doublelife in

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  it's been a couple of months since i posted anything.

  i finally have internet in my apartment.

  some of you may not remember me, some may.

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  thenoblelodge

  congratulations on your new life.

  I know how you feel about buying birthday cards, but once you've bought one ..... well now I don't even give it a thought, I love buying 'em.
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  When Was The Last Time You Went To A Meeting?

  by minimus in

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  i think it's been around 7 years for me.

  and i never ever missed going or being with the "friends"..

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  Went to the memorial 2009 (stands out because we were totally shunned) and one more after that. If we had run naked up and down the aisle no one would have noticed... we had become the undisfellowshipped. The lasts laughs on me, I've never been so happy.
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  Treatment of Women In the Watchtower Society

  by phoebed in

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  i am new here- and very very depressed.

  my story is very long and i can not now even tell all the story.

  i am shocked, disoriented, depressed.

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  thenoblelodge

  Hi and welcome.

  Look forward to hearing your story, and trust me you will get help and support here. I physically shook for two days when I found out the Watchtower was based on lies. It's hard at first but after 18 months of being out, I can truly say I'm happy for the first time in my life.

  ((((hugs))))
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  Hearing the Voice of God or His Messenger

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  i reserve my comments for now, and just post a youtube video on the subject for your comments:.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwjsntzfdcu.

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  OTWO - Are you saying/suggesting AGuest has a mental problem... seriously.

  I have a brother who has schizophrenia. He hears voices but they bring him no peace, offer him no help and therefore he cannot help others.To be honest ... he scares the very life out of me because he can be violent and very aggressive. Schizophrenics are never (to my knowledge) loving, kind, peaceful or capable of showing love. Trust me I do have experience of this.

  They are nothing like the ones who hear voices and post what they hear on this board. What has been posted by Shelby has bought comfort to many including me and other members of my family. People with mental health issues (namely schizophrenia) are usually not capable of doing that.

  Sorry if I speak out of turn but I do follow Shelby's posts and I am aware of the stalkers who stalk just to have a go at her.

  Your post rattled me.
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  AGuest

  by thenoblelodge in

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  you have yet another pm .

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  thenoblelodge

  No I don't mind you posting it at all, infact I'm glad you did.

  Thank you.
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  New Apostate here

  by skitt in

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  i did not know where to start, but figured the personal experience section was a good place to begin.

  won't bore you with all the particulars today....but i was raised in "it" (wont call it the truth, cause it ain't) from about 1968. baptized in 1985, faded about 2001.....woke up from the insanity after reading ray franz forbidden book a few years ago(crisis).

  only sorry i did not read it earlier....but there was that fear factor instilled in me.

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  Welcome Skitt, so glad you're out.
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  Greetings!

  by Merkaba in

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  i am a twenty-eight year old ex-witness.

  at the age of fifteen i had developed an alcohol and drug problem mainly due to my dysfunctional upbringing.

  my parents were divorced at a young age causing my mother to run to the witnesses for emotional support and fellowship during a trying time.

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  thenoblelodge

  Hello and welcome.

  Hopefully your mom will wake up to, until then do your best to enjoy your life and don't let them hurt you anymore.

  Well written by the way. ((((((hugs))))))
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  untitled

  by VampireDCLXV in

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  i'm a 38 year old man who's seen too much.

  too much hypocrisy.

  too much apathy.

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  thenoblelodge

  Hello and welcome, enjoy your stay.