Posts by MrMonroe

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The effect we are having on the Watchtower is HUGE

by jwfacts in

i was inspired by a recent thread i know i aint gunna crumble the wt, but a girl can dream to look at the effect we as individuals are having on the watchtower society.. 3dogs1husband quoted a story to show that even helping only one person is worth it.. it is encouraging to note that the one person you may have helped has lead to millions being helped, due to the power of compounding growth.. compounding growth is well illustrated by the rice on a chessboard problem.

if you start with 1 grain of rice on square one, and double it to 2 on the second, 4 on the third, 8 on the fourth, by the last (64th) square there would be 18,446,744,073,709,551,615 grains of rice.. likewise, if you help one person out of the grip of the watchtower this year, then next year you help one more and they help one, in a few years that is going to have a formidable result on the number of jehovahs witnesses.

look at the following statistics.

MrMonroe

JWN and JWFacts are among the sites that contain some of the best facts about the WTS that can open the eyes of wavering JWs.

I think it's also heartening that the Jehovah's Witnesses page at Wikipedia (probably perceived as a reasonably trustworthy site) gets between 4000 and 5000 visits a day; the Criticism of Jehovah's Witnesses article gets between 180 and 200 visits a day, probably all of them coming directly from the links within the parent article.

Witnesses have tried very hard to remove and water down the criticisms section of the main article; I think it may help to round out the knowledge of anyone considering immersing themselves deeper into the religion.

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80% of all web sites are pornagraphic

by Sour Grapes in

during today's witchtower study there was so much wisdom.

coming forth from the conductor and those in attendance that.

i could only say to myself "can't they hear what they are saying?".

MrMonroe

It's the whole scenario from the movie "The Village" all over again.

It's scary out there. Stay with us. Only by doing exactly what we tell you will you be safe.

I used to listen to the same sort of crap at meetings and wonder, "Do people really believe this stuff, or are they just trying to sound more righteous than the previous speaker?"

Wherever JWs gather -- at Kingdom Halls, conventions and at Bethels, invisible intellectual bubbles form. Whatever goes on in the outside world just has no impact on them. If they say it's so .... it's so. It's an imaginary, make-believe world that forms every time they gather, filled with talk about angelic direction, threats of demons, dangers of apostates, promises of a new system .... a make-believe world. And they all go along with the pretence.

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Top Ten Pickup Lines at This Year's Convention

by JimmyPage in

10. if i said you had a nice governing body would you hold it against me?.

9. let's overlap our generations if you know what i mean.. 8. what do you say we lose this great crowd?.

7. i want to be your faithful slave.. 6. tonight we're gonna party like it's 1974.. 7. your breasts are like towers.. 6. would you welcome a shepherding call?.

MrMonroe

"I'm not so keen on male headship. I've always preferred women on top."

"Maybe we could go to my motel and work on the fruits of the spirit. If I give you some love, how's your self-control?"

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Top Ten Pickup Lines at This Year's Convention

by JimmyPage in

10. if i said you had a nice governing body would you hold it against me?.

9. let's overlap our generations if you know what i mean.. 8. what do you say we lose this great crowd?.

7. i want to be your faithful slave.. 6. tonight we're gonna party like it's 1974.. 7. your breasts are like towers.. 6. would you welcome a shepherding call?.

MrMonroe

"Maybe it's the Devil to blame, but when I look at you there's only one thing on my mind ... 6, 6, 6."

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'Silent Witnesses' - JW Pedophilia (Australia) VIDEO

by 3Mozzies in

thanks to mr monroe, i was able to upload this video from 2002.. .

http://vimeo.com/25581273.

'sunday' reveals the extraordinary story of how the jehovahs witnesses in australia routinely cover up cases of child abuse in their ranks and obstruct police investigations.

MrMonroe

Very grateful to 3Mozzies for uploading this.

Interestingly, a couple of years later Channel 9's Sunday program did a follow-up, finding some of those people in better spirits, but other victims ... and an organisation just as smug and arrogant.

Youtube link

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September 15 WT Same old, Same old.

by Slidin Fast in

startfragment.

these paragraphs once again promote the gb/writing commitee to the status of god.

they also blatantly reverse the meaning of acts 17:11 by selectively quoting it, missing out completely the phrase 'as to whether these things were so".

MrMonroe

Luna2, I know what you mean. An elder's daughter, who'd always been a bit rebellious in her younger days, had a baby and was discussing with my wife the challenges that would arise eventually over birthdays and Easter etc. My wife said, "Well, it's a decision we all have to make about whether we pull our kids out of the room when they're singing 'Happy Birthday' (we didn't). She replied, indignantly: "No way. There's no question. If the organisation says we shouldn't do it, then we don't! If the organisation told us to jump off a cliff, we'd do it, wouldn't we!"

My wife didn't quite know what to say. Scary people, some of them. Really worrying.

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September 15 WT Same old, Same old.

by Slidin Fast in

startfragment.

these paragraphs once again promote the gb/writing commitee to the status of god.

they also blatantly reverse the meaning of acts 17:11 by selectively quoting it, missing out completely the phrase 'as to whether these things were so".

MrMonroe

Probably discussed elsewhere, but another couple of points:

Page 29: Although in Korah’s eyes it was aged Moses who was making day-to-day decisions, it was really Jehovah who was directing the nation. Korah lost sight of that fact and consequently failed to show loyalty to those whom God was using. How much wiser it would have been for Korah to wait on Jehovah for a clearer understanding or for adjustments if those were really needed. So in the end, Korah destroyed his record of faithful
service by his prideful actions! That account provides a serious warning for elders and others in the congregation today. Waiting on Jehovah and following directions from those appointed to take the lead requires humility.

The Jews in the wilderness had a few subtle signs that God was with them and using Moses (parting of the Red Sea, the Ten Commandments, turning bitter water into sweet, water from a rock, budding staff, manna from heaven ....) the Governing Body has ... anyone? anyone? anyone? Oh, that's right, they just tell JWs God is using them. So therefore they must be obeyed.

Page 22: In addition to “everyweight,” Paul mentioned putting off “the sin that easily entangles us.” What might that be? The Greek word translated “easily entangles” appears only once in the Bible, in this verse. Scholar Albert Barnes observed: “As a runner would be careful not to encumber himself with a garment which would be apt to wind around his legs in running, and hinder him, so it should be with the Christian, who especially ought to lay aside everything which resembles this.”

Just a thought here: could the "sin that easily entangles us" also involve pride and the demand to lord it over others? Could it be that the Governing Body has fallen into the human trap of wanting to dominate the faith of others, telling them they can only please God by first pleasing them?

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When You Left The "Truth" Were People Shocked?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i faded and when witnesses realized i had abandoned the faith, they were shocked!

no one would've ever believed that i would've left!

no one!!

MrMonroe

Friends of ours in Brisbane were shocked and dismayed when we stopped going to meetings. No one here in Melbourne seemed to show any interest. A friend met one of the closest friends of my wife's at a DC in Brisbane and gave her the bad news ... and she cried! Did that "close friend" pick up the phone and ring my wife to ask her what's going on, do we have any problems? Weirdly, we've never heard a word from her. Not a thing. Another of my wife's close friends (her bridesmaid at our wedding) would also obviously been told ... and again, not a word.

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Why are WTBTS headquarters moving out of Brooklyn?

by BoleynGirl in

aside from the economic incentives, has the wtbts actually said why they are moving the headquarters to warwick, ny?.

is there any sort of official statement re: reasoning?.

are they suggesting this is part of the "preparation" for the big a - when nyc will clearly be destroyed, and so jehovah won't have to squint and pick out the jws in brooklyn in order to avoid them when hurling the fireballs..

MrMonroe

Funny! I like your reasoning!

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A SISTER IS AFRAID SHE WILL GET MARKED

by minimus in

jw
friends

yesterday, a friend told me that she has been secretly dating a non- witness.

she plans on marrying him and will tell about her relationship only after she is married.

she is worried that she will be marked.

MrMonroe

I just LOVE that word "fornication". they do request a meeting and ask if any "fornication" occurred.

Where else in the world can one refer to sex only as "fornication"? It makes it sound so dirty, like a disease. It's a phrase so heavily laden with Amish-style 1800s atitudes. Even when otherwise normal, modern adults in the congregation talk about people being DFd, they always lower their voices, glance around, and mutter, "I think there was fornication involved."

Chaperones, "a view to marriage", self-abuse, "committing immorality" ... what are some other of those quaint Victorian-era WT phrases and attitudes?