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  How many Jw's would like to know they are inferior christians according to thier leaders?

  by Crazyguy in

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  most jw's don't know that they are in fact jonadabs and that in the vidication books rutherford came up with this class because he found some christians not as holy as others having part of themselves still stuck in satan's system still wanting to be wordly in some fashion.

  so he came up with this class the jonadabs.

  i wonder how jw's would react if they were to find this out?

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  I don't think they care.

  They are holding out for the fruit platters and personal petting zoos.
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  Roll call of those of us stuck in for our spouse or whos spouse is still in!

  by BU2B in

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  i just wanted to get a feel for how many here have awakened to ttatt but are still carrying on some jw activities to pacify them and keep the peace.

  also trying to hear from those who have left, but whose spouse has stayed in the wt and in the marriage.. for me it comes down to my own mental anguish.

  i am mentally tortured by attending the meetings, yet i feel compelled to because my wife would kill me with her personality if i had her drag 2 small girls by herself there.

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  I just cant enjoy my day if my wife is upset, sad, or depressed. Its even worse if I was the cause of it. However torturing ourselves isnt much of an alternative.

  What you need to do is seize your manhood back from the b0rg, and to a lesser extent your wife. The b0rg can say all it wants about men being the head of the house, but in reality the WTBTS is the head, the man is just another enforcer below the elder level. Women "think" they want a Watchtower man running things, but at a very primal level they want something different. You MUST break the co-dependency cycle and be able to enjoy life simply because you want to, not because your wife says it is OK to be happy today.

  I'll throw a website out there for you guys who want to try a totally different method of improving yourself and your marriage. There is a free discussion board and a blog, but I really recommend the books for around $10 bucks.

  www.marriedmansexlife.com

  Its all about becoming a man that a woman desires on a very evolutionary level, and also helps you grow personally. It also will help you be in a great spot should your marriage end, whatever the reason.
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  A "follow up" meeting?!?!

  by DATA-DOG in

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  well, now they want a follow up visit!

  when you tell the elders that you have doubts and they say " its okay, we have had our doubts.

  having doubts is not apostasy.

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  A follow up meeting??? Good one. More like another anal probing session to make sure Data Dog is on board with the WTBTS program.

  How about this, ask them to bring over a copy of the Finished Mystery, so you all can study the book that Jesus read before selecting the WTBTS as his mouthpiece on earth. That should shut them up for a while.
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  Sept 2014 WT study highlights ("Love all the work, including sweeping the floor")

  by EndofMysteries in

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  don't mind the corrections i made with some of the quotes, the wt obviously doesn't proofread for accuracy.

  under the article about "are you convinced you have the truth" they say this about disfellowshippings...... "thus, during the modern-day history of jehovahs witnesses, relatively few many have had to be been expelled from the christian fellowship because they would not conform to gods the governing body's standards.

  this is a good one!....under an article about reaching out, (since they need to replace all those waking up, they give some tips on how to get promoted), my favorite quote..... "love all the work you are given to do in the congregation, including sweeping the floor.".

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  Not that the WT is any bastion of thinking these days, but that article as a whole is one of the worst I've seen in a long, long time.
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  Elders Can't Simply Go Back to Being Ministerial Servants...

  by TTATTelder in

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  as a currently serving "awake" elder caught in the web of family, spouse, employer, etc.

  etc..... i have often wondered why an elder cannot simply drop back to ministerial servant if he so desired (because of stress, circumstances, health).. on paper a currently serving elder in good standing more than qualifies to be a ms. that is obviously the case by their own hierarchy structure and definitions of qualification.. but...under their current arrangement....theoretically a man could give a district convention talk one week to 10,000 people, step down as an elder the following day due to stress, and not "qualify" to give a 5 min part on the next week's service meeting in front of 50 people.

  doesn't make a lot of sense.. so my question is this.....why do you think the wt forces a man to drop all the way "down" to publisher if he no longer wants to serve as an elder?.

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  My guess is that lots of elders would start asking to move down if that was an option. It would tell the rest of the JWs that he did nothing wrong, which is what they want JWs to think (if even subconsciously) if an elder is deleted right now.
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  Seattle Convention - any updates?

  by Lynnie in

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  was wondering if anyone attended the seattle intl convention and what it was like?

  saw some pics from instagram, seems like quite the.

  big production for sure!

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  Was Lett as goofy as he usually is?

  I'm sure he was puttin' on quite a show with 40,000 sitting at attention.
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  What Specifically Are the "Sins" Due to Imperfection that We Commit Each Day ?

  by RubaDub in

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  2. beliefs

  as jw's we are constantly reminded that we sin each day due to imperfection.

  but when bringing up the specifics, i have never gotten a good answer.. several times i have even mentioned to others of my getting up on a sunday morning, reading the daily text, studying the watchtower for the afternoon meeting, driving to the meeting (under the speed limit), answering at the meeting, (not using more than one towel in the restroom), going out in service later in the afternoon, coming home, having dinner, and then in the evening preparing for a part for the ministry school.. i didn't recall scheming in my heart about doing something bad or anything like that.. so, specifically, where does the "sin" come in?

  and if what i did was sinful, how can i improve on it?

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  Thought crime.

  See a well endowed hottie at the meeting and wish you could motorboat her ta-tas?

  Think to yourself that Elder Johnson is a real dick?

  Evil sinner.

  Its all part of controlling the thoughts of a JW. Cult 101.
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  why dont more elders leave?

  by Crazyguy in

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  you would think that what they are exposed to more would wake up and leave, why not?

  thoughts..

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  Becoming an elder can be a big ego-stroke. Suddenly you are participating in the secret back room meetings, appointed to serve on JCs, and getting your balls washed when you go out and visit congos by people you never met.

  At the same time, you suddenly see the dark side of the org, the power hungry elders, the silly rules that have to be enforced, etc.

  If an elder isn't woken up by the back room politics within a few years, it becomes 'comfortable' getting the adulation from everyone else. Then its very difficult to break through the cognative dissonance as you become extremely invested in the cult.
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  I'm confused! Just what is the "new" donation arrangement and how is it like "tithing"?

  by booker-t in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been out so long but many of my ex-jws friends have been telling me of a "new" donation/tithing arrangement the wts is using today.

  when i was a jws we had "contribution" boxes at the back of the kh and the elders would give talks about contributing to the kingdom interest.

  we were not forced to give but gave as we pleased.

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  Or you could use the search button.
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  Inactive relative defends new donation setup based on word of active relative. Doubts veracity of letters!

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. watchtower
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  my sister came to the society's defense on the issue of "pledged amounts" not being accurate because a realative stated that it didn't happen in her congregation.

  so i said they were mistaken, and that i had access to the letters proving it.

  she doubted that they were authentic.

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  LostGeneration

  You can lead a horse to water.